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<blockquote data-quote="okeydoke" data-source="post: 2909585" data-attributes="member: 41320"><p>too cheap to buy a timer and airsoft copy of their ccw gun,and too lazy to do the work to become fast (and safe while fast). There's really no other considerations. All this concern over ridiculous levels of accuracy, taking on ridiculous numbers of (gun armed) enemies. Ive been studying armed self defense for over 50 years now, and since the end of the Indian Wars, I've never once heard of a case where a US citizen, not a soldier or cop, , inside the US, has HAD to HIT more than 2 people, in order to make the rest of his attackers run off. That's just the reality of it. Either you've won or you're behind cover in less than 2 seconds, you're hit yourself, or blind luck has saved you. Very few people can make a ccw draw and do much of anything in 2 seconds. :-)</p><p></p><p>I've been in on 3 leatherslaps, before IPSC got scared and quit having them. 2 of them which I helped to manage, one of which was my design. The latter one was 10 shots concealed, on 18"x24" at 10 yds, 5 different hand start positions, then repeat after removing the concealing garment. The average time for a ccw draw and hit was 2.2, or 2.3 seconds, I can't recall exactly. Quite a few went over 3 seconds, cause they missed repeatedly. It's just as hard to hit the 10" vitals-circle (reliably) at 10 ft as to hit the 18"x24" at 10 yds. A truly fast man gets such hits in 1.0 second, and can hit 5 more such targets, spread out a bit, in another 1.3 seconds.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="okeydoke, post: 2909585, member: 41320"] too cheap to buy a timer and airsoft copy of their ccw gun,and too lazy to do the work to become fast (and safe while fast). There's really no other considerations. All this concern over ridiculous levels of accuracy, taking on ridiculous numbers of (gun armed) enemies. Ive been studying armed self defense for over 50 years now, and since the end of the Indian Wars, I've never once heard of a case where a US citizen, not a soldier or cop, , inside the US, has HAD to HIT more than 2 people, in order to make the rest of his attackers run off. That's just the reality of it. Either you've won or you're behind cover in less than 2 seconds, you're hit yourself, or blind luck has saved you. Very few people can make a ccw draw and do much of anything in 2 seconds. :-) I've been in on 3 leatherslaps, before IPSC got scared and quit having them. 2 of them which I helped to manage, one of which was my design. The latter one was 10 shots concealed, on 18"x24" at 10 yds, 5 different hand start positions, then repeat after removing the concealing garment. The average time for a ccw draw and hit was 2.2, or 2.3 seconds, I can't recall exactly. Quite a few went over 3 seconds, cause they missed repeatedly. It's just as hard to hit the 10" vitals-circle (reliably) at 10 ft as to hit the 18"x24" at 10 yds. A truly fast man gets such hits in 1.0 second, and can hit 5 more such targets, spread out a bit, in another 1.3 seconds. [/QUOTE]
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