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<blockquote data-quote="n2sooners" data-source="post: 2196164" data-attributes="member: 26539"><p>You don't trust any of it. You try to wade through the BS and draw your own conclusions. And you try to separate what we know from what we don't know.</p><p></p><p>We know there has been a global warming trend since the dark ages when we had a mini ice age. We know CO2 levels have been much high and so have temperatures (and the CO2 increase followed the temperature not the other way around). And at that time the world wasn't a giant desert, it was covered in lush plant life and dinosaurs. We know that even with the GISS numbers there hasn't been any warming in about a decade and a half, so the warming trend hasn't followed CO2 levels but it has followed sun cycles. And we do know that climate alarmism runs in cycles.</p><p></p><p>What we don't know is what effect overall we have on global temperature. We don't know what the perfect earth temperature since the earth never remains at the same temperature for long. We don't know that warming would be disastrous (but we do know the next ice age will be). We don't know that there is any ways we could change that would significantly change the climate. Even the most optimistic predictions say if we took drastic and costly actions that they would have only a small effect.</p><p></p><p>One last thing we know is that the earth spends far more time much cooler than it is now in what we call ice ages. We are living in one of the regular temperature spikes and we should enjoy it and stop wishing for it to be colder because some day it will be and it won't be pleasant.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/alanbetts.com_image_1_1200_0_uploads_vostok3curves_1276876924.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="n2sooners, post: 2196164, member: 26539"] You don't trust any of it. You try to wade through the BS and draw your own conclusions. And you try to separate what we know from what we don't know. We know there has been a global warming trend since the dark ages when we had a mini ice age. We know CO2 levels have been much high and so have temperatures (and the CO2 increase followed the temperature not the other way around). And at that time the world wasn't a giant desert, it was covered in lush plant life and dinosaurs. We know that even with the GISS numbers there hasn't been any warming in about a decade and a half, so the warming trend hasn't followed CO2 levels but it has followed sun cycles. And we do know that climate alarmism runs in cycles. What we don't know is what effect overall we have on global temperature. We don't know what the perfect earth temperature since the earth never remains at the same temperature for long. We don't know that warming would be disastrous (but we do know the next ice age will be). We don't know that there is any ways we could change that would significantly change the climate. Even the most optimistic predictions say if we took drastic and costly actions that they would have only a small effect. One last thing we know is that the earth spends far more time much cooler than it is now in what we call ice ages. We are living in one of the regular temperature spikes and we should enjoy it and stop wishing for it to be colder because some day it will be and it won't be pleasant. [IMG]https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/alanbetts.com_image_1_1200_0_uploads_vostok3curves_1276876924.jpg[/IMG] [/QUOTE]
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