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<blockquote data-quote="SMS" data-source="post: 1771431" data-attributes="member: 42"><p>I didn't state anything as a fact J.B....but I'll insert the following to what you posted.</p><p></p><p>Zimmerman and Martin were present.</p><p><em>Zimmerman is/was not a law enforcement officer</em></p><p><em>Martin was not observed or reported to be commiting any crime or illegal act</em></p><p>Zimmerman called 911.</p><p>Zimmerman relayed the information to the 911 dispatcher.</p><p>Zimmerman <em>got out of his vehicle and </em>began following Martin, <em>who again, was by all accounts not doing anything but walking through the neighborhood</em>. </p><p>The 911 dispatcher asked him if he was, and told him "We don't need you to do that".</p><p>Zimmerman acknowledged what the dispatcher told him <em>and apparentely continued to follow him</em></p><p>We hear heavy breathing.</p><p>The call ends.</p><p><em>Eyewitnesses testify Zimmerman was on his back getting his ass kicked when he shot Martin</em></p><p></p><p>It has always been my position that if Zimmerman had stayed in his vehicle, he would have been less likely to end up on his back getting a whoopin' from a 17 year old...he chose to play by big boy rules and he shouldn't be falling back on SYG as a defense, if that's even the angle his defense team will take.</p><p></p><p>Yes, we don't know what happened in between him hanging up on 911 and when he shot Martin. I'm not judging guilt or innocence...just engaging in the current angle of this conversation about the validity or applicability of SYG in this case. I don't need to read reams of court testimony to have the <em>opinion</em> that Zimmerman initiated this encounter as the aggressor and that SYG doesn't/shouldn't protect you if you are said aggressor.</p><p></p><p>How on earth is that a "contortion of logic"?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SMS, post: 1771431, member: 42"] I didn't state anything as a fact J.B....but I'll insert the following to what you posted. Zimmerman and Martin were present. [I]Zimmerman is/was not a law enforcement officer Martin was not observed or reported to be commiting any crime or illegal act[/I] Zimmerman called 911. Zimmerman relayed the information to the 911 dispatcher. Zimmerman [I]got out of his vehicle and [/I]began following Martin, [I]who again, was by all accounts not doing anything but walking through the neighborhood[/I]. The 911 dispatcher asked him if he was, and told him "We don't need you to do that". Zimmerman acknowledged what the dispatcher told him [I]and apparentely continued to follow him[/I] We hear heavy breathing. The call ends. [I]Eyewitnesses testify Zimmerman was on his back getting his ass kicked when he shot Martin[/I] It has always been my position that if Zimmerman had stayed in his vehicle, he would have been less likely to end up on his back getting a whoopin' from a 17 year old...he chose to play by big boy rules and he shouldn't be falling back on SYG as a defense, if that's even the angle his defense team will take. Yes, we don't know what happened in between him hanging up on 911 and when he shot Martin. I'm not judging guilt or innocence...just engaging in the current angle of this conversation about the validity or applicability of SYG in this case. I don't need to read reams of court testimony to have the [I]opinion[/I] that Zimmerman initiated this encounter as the aggressor and that SYG doesn't/shouldn't protect you if you are said aggressor. How on earth is that a "contortion of logic"? [/QUOTE]
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