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here's my setup ...

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here's my setup ...

Nice! Do you have your tombstone on rollers? Do those units come with attachment points for casters, or do you have to devise a tray or form? Is there room inside the housing for the bolt on a caster to pass through the floor of the welder and be bolted into place?
 

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here's my setup ...

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that idealarc is giving me flashbacks of my high school years. if i remember correctly, counter clockwise all the way is 35. each full turn clockwise after that was 10. i'd love to get an old idealarc, but my ranger is good enough for now
 

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Well, I just got an email from Grainger - they're welshing on the advertised price, calling it a mistake. They did offer me a 30% discount on the regular price of the Millermatic 180, but I can find better shipped prices elsewhere on the Net. I told them thanks, but no thanks. Like you said, too good to be true.

Yea, They offered me a small discount but I find them in the internet all day long for 825 shipped so that is what I'm going to do. I haven't totally thrown in the towel with Grainger though. I wrote them a letter that I doubt they will acknowledge. Here it is if anyone cares to critique it ( I omitted my order number here).


To whom it may concern,

I’m writing this letter to express how unhappy I am with your company. In the evening of June 9th I ordered A miller 180 Welder / cart package from your website that showed to be on sale for a very good price (your item number 1TKC5 @ $395.84). The next morning I was called by one of your service reps who I think might have been named Linda or Laurie. She told me that there was a mistake on Grainger’s part where the item I ordered was an old part number that was mistakenly left on your website and is not available (even though it is a current model being offered by the manufacturer and one of two that your site showed to be on sale). She then quickly went on to let me know that I could order the same welder without the cart for substantially more money. As far as I am concerned this is Bait and switch. I was lured into purchasing a product at a good price and then was offered a switch at full MSRP. I hope that this is not a common practice for your company and in the future and that you take steps to insure that this does not happen to another customer.
 

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Another question, What's a good price for a 80 or 125 CF Cylinder? Any good places to look for one or should I just call the welding supply? I already know about making sure I dont get one that is owned by the supply company
 

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I purchased two K size (200 cf) bottles from Alloy (1717 Hwy 97 North, Sapulpa, OK 74066 | Phone: 918-227-3085) a few years back. They were one of the only companies that would sell that size bottle and they were the least expensive on top of that. It was worth the drive for me.

I currently buy my gases from Fullerton between Claremore and Inola on Highway 88. ((918) 341-8264 - 25318 S Highway 88, Inola, OK)

Sorry about all the junk going on with Grainger. I should have known that price was too good to be true...
 

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I have to confess, with all this talk about gas bottles, I've not yet done GMAW. Just flux-core, and while it's done just fine by me, I can see where someday I'll need to try gas welding. So I'm curious; is there a general rule of thumb where you can estimate the amount of gas you'll need for a job? Say, so many cubic feet of gas per linear foot of weld? I realize it's going to vary quite a bit, but some idea of what I can expect would be helpful.
 

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Sorry about all the junk going on with Grainger. I should have known that price was too good to be true...

Dont be sorry about the Grainger deal. I was out nothing but the time to order. As my brother would say " The Juice was worth the Squeeze" I'll call the place you recommended tomorrow. I'm thinking I want a 150CF bottle. Victor was $250 and Wilbanks was $227 ( though the company I work for has an account there so I might be able to get it a little cheaper). Both places said that they were in the 25 dollar range to fill (swap) the tank.

I have to confess, with all this talk about gas bottles, I've not yet done GMAW. Just flux-core, and while it's done just fine by me, I can see where someday I'll need to try gas welding. So I'm curious; is there a general rule of thumb where you can estimate the amount of gas you'll need for a job? Say, so many cubic feet of gas per linear foot of weld? I realize it's going to vary quite a bit, but some idea of what I can expect would be helpful.

It is my understanding...
Flux wire welding is not nearly as good looking or controllable of a weld as the gas counterpart. It's advantages are that it works well outside and you dont have to mess with a cylinder. The manual for the Millermatic 180 shows a flow rate of 20 - 30 CF an hour flow and I see where people say that they set their gauges at 20 and have good results. Divide that number buy the size of your bottle and that should be a good idea of how long the bottle should last. ( an 80 CF bottle @ 20 an hour = 4 hours welding time) I think I read that the miller has a solenoid in it so I'd guess that it only uses gas when you pull the trigger.
 

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