Not that I'm a hardass or anything, I'm just too hard nosed to run away from anyone. I'll avoid a fight if possible, but I aint running!
Not that I'm a hardass or anything, I'm just too hard nosed to run away from anyone. I'll avoid a fight if possible, but I aint running!
Yeah... but I should have said "...or if outnumbered/outgunned."
This comment underscores the point of the thread, despite being clearly intended to do just the opposite.
Reliance on hardware will lose to reliance on software.
The root of gunfight is "fight" not "gun".
The assumption of equal initiative and proportional armament is extremely dangerous everywhere but a target range.
Is it possible that a weapon will negate other issues? It is certainly possible. Its just an awfully big assumption to make and smacks of bluster.
Its doubtful that anything one says here will have any effect on one's personal protection unless it provokes thought and lifestyle change.
Michael Brown
Michael, you aren't telling me anything new. Police aren't trained like they should be and don't have any physical requirements after they get out of the academy. They rely on weapons and numbers to scare most criminals. It has worked so far but like you said the times are changing. Most departments teach the bare minimum. If the officer wants to learn more he has to do it on his own time.
Nice piece.
Nice piece.
Just because you have a gun doesn't mean in a fight you will be able to use it. If you are close enough you won't have it anymore with a trained fighter unless you are equally trained.
How very true. Better to not rely on a firearm in a hand to hand fight. Through Krav Maga and counter kidnapping/ interrogation training a person can be taught to defend themselves against an armed attacker to disarm and take control. I have seen training done by an Isreali group that teaches defense while handcuffed behind the back. From what I've seen would hate for the LEO's to have to go up against this.
years ago Texas had prison system that was self supporting
they grew most all their food and made clothing by growing the sheep and cattle
then some federal judge came along and said prisoner had rights
now that is a great cost to us tax payers
ef9turbo you can get an college education if you want it
i started when i was 38 and finished a 4 year degree by 42
it was not easy as i was working 40 plus hours a week at night
start at community college and look for grants and other ways to get money from the college
start small a couple of classes a semester
woops did not mean to do that oh well
mib
they grew most all their food and made clothing by growing the sheep and cattle
then some federal judge came along and said prisoner had rights
now that is a great cost to us tax payers
ef9turbo you can get an college education if you want it
i started when i was 38 and finished a 4 year degree by 42
it was not easy as i was working 40 plus hours a week at night
start at community college and look for grants and other ways to get money from the college
start small a couple of classes a semester
woops did not mean to do that oh well
mib
Well I just disagree with you about 60% - I think you're right about 40%. Physical fitness in general, and hand to hand training in particular, IS useful, and COULD save your life. But it's not the most important thing. The attitude to fight is the most important thing, which one can have and I do have without any MA/HTH knowledge. The second most important thing is having the right hardware, and the knowledge and skill to implement them (handguns in particular) quickly and effectively. Third would be general physical conditioning in case you need to run away or fight for control of said hardware. And a distant 4th would be actual attacks or counters to MMA or machete nonsense. So my view is different - the root of gunfight is GUN, not fight....
Perhaps Exhibit "A" here will illustrate my point:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iORmi46dowo
Obviously, you are a very wise and learned instructor and fighter, so your mileage may, and does vary. Again, though, I'm agreeing with you mostly - I just think it's more like 60%/40% hardware over software.
Perhaps Exhibit "A" here will illustrate my point:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iORmi46dowo
Obviously, you are a very wise and learned instructor and fighter, so your mileage may, and does vary. Again, though, I'm agreeing with you mostly - I just think it's more like 60%/40% hardware over software.
Well I just disagree with you about 60% - I think you're right about 40%. Physical fitness in general, and hand to hand training in particular, IS useful, and COULD save your life. But it's not the most important thing. The attitude to fight is the most important thing, which one can have and I do have without any MA/HTH knowledge. The second most important thing is having the right hardware, and the knowledge and skill to implement them (handguns in particular) quickly and effectively. Third would be general physical conditioning in case you need to run away or fight for control of said hardware. And a distant 4th would be actual attacks or counters to MMA or machete nonsense. So my view is different - the root of gunfight is GUN, not fight....
Perhaps Exhibit "A" here will illustrate my point:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iORmi46dowo
Obviously, you are a very wise and learned instructor and fighter, so your mileage may, and does vary. Again, though, I'm agreeing with you mostly - I just think it's more like 60%/40% hardware over software.
While the clip is obviously amusing, its a movie. If we base our concepts on movies, we will have a very different view of fighting than what it really entails. Sadly you are unknowingly relating the greatest problem personal protection instructors deal with.
I base my opinions on a greater than average level of experience and a greater than average commitment to addressing the problem of criminal assault.
Thus I can be fairly confident that when I form an opinion it is not mere speculation and that when I voice it to others they won't get themselves hurt because they relied on my opinion.
Upon what experience or any other medium, specifically, do you base your opinions?
Michael Brown
Well I just disagree with you about 60% - I think you're right about 40%. Physical fitness in general, and hand to hand training in particular, IS useful, and COULD save your life. But it's not the most important thing. The attitude to fight is the most important thing, which one can have and I do have without any MA/HTH knowledge. The second most important thing is having the right hardware, and the knowledge and skill to implement them (handguns in particular) quickly and effectively. Third would be general physical conditioning in case you need to run away or fight for control of said hardware. And a distant 4th would be actual attacks or counters to MMA or machete nonsense. So my view is different - the root of gunfight is GUN, not fight....
Perhaps Exhibit "A" here will illustrate my point:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iORmi46dowo
Obviously, you are a very wise and learned instructor and fighter, so your mileage may, and does vary. Again, though, I'm agreeing with you mostly - I just think it's more like 60%/40% hardware over software.
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