Rifle question, If I could only buy one, opinions please....

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tranger2

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I grew up in SE Okla with a Ruger 22, a Rem 870, and a Rem 700 30-06. These three have done everything I have ever needed. Several years ago, I bought an H&R .243 that is my favorite gun for deer or coyotes as it is very short and light. I have since purchased a plain jane S&W M&P .223 which basically sits in the safe (I know I want to change out the plastic forgrip to something else).

Twenty seven years ago, I moved to the city and continued hunting every year back home. Then marriage, then kids, then money being spent in other places, family moved from SE Oklahoma and lost my bedroom down there, then the lack or ease of finding places to hunt around the city. Next thing I know, I look up and over the last 10 years, I have not been hunting nor shooting, hardly at all. As I near retirement, my resolution is to find places and get my boys out camping, hunting and shooting again.

Now to my question, I would like to purchase a rifle that is a big enough caliber for deer but that is small enough to be fun to shoot. My 30.06 kills deer but is too big to play and plink.

My scattered thoughts are:

I used to like the Remington AR platform but they sure seem too expensive.
I love shooting the .223, low recoil and fun, cheap ammo and easily available.
Been reading about the 6.5 Grendel and wonder if it is a decent round for deer, how expensive is ammo, how hard to get? Can I run a 6.5 upper on a .223 lower? I read this round is about half the recoil of the .308, is that true?
I have shot a coyote and a deer from 180 to 200 yard mark only twice in my life. Most of my kills have been within 100 yards. I would like to be able to shoot further if one of you ever invite me to western Oklahoma wheat fields and not the pine trees back home.

I am not opposed to a bolt action rifle in the smaller caliber also. Really thought about a .223 but think its a little small for deer hunting. I like the thought of a Savage with the adjustable trigger, seemed to be a reasonable priced rifle. What else do you recommend in the bolt action?

Do they make a scope that has a lighted reticule that is reasonable priced? The scopes I have are the ones in the $150 to $200 range which have been all I need for what I have used them for. I think they are lower end Leopold and Bushnell. They have been very accurate for what I have been doing with them.

Where do you CONSISTANTLY find the best prices on the accessories you buy, online or local? Where do you buy from more than others? I am a shopper and my OCD makes me check several places before I purchase.

I'm sure I will have more comments, but this is a start. Any opinions are welcome, thanks in advance.
 

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A simple bolt gun in .270 will kill anything in Oklahoma, and gives twice the accuracy of an AR at half the price. A .243 would do, except for elk in the Wichita managed hunts. I have a Win Model 70 (bought in 1973) in .270 Winchester with a 4X Weaver scope that has taken everything up to caribou and elk.

Even if you don't reload, reduced factory ammo is available for the 30-06 you already have.

Having gone from too busy to hunt at all to retired, I suggest you get on the range to shoot what you have, look at the latest ammo offerings (not every load has to be for 400 yard shots), and then go hunting with a gun you have. They still work.

Then you can see about building up your gun collection. That's fun too.

Best wishes
 

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A .223 bolt or AR loaded with Barnes VorTX will take deer and yotes at 200yrds, have several, all 1 shot clean kills.
Cheap plinking ammo availability , low recoil, fun to shoot.
 

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If you want a caliber with good crossover potential, the 243 is the way to go. You can get light weight bullets for varmints and heavy bullets for whitetail. There is a wide variety of factory loads to choose from that would allow you to hunt everything from prairie dogs to whitetail and hogs.

Now, as far as the platform to go with, that is dependent upon your preferences. I do like bolt guns but in my opinion, the Remington R-25 in 243 has it's merits. I have the R-25 in 308 topped with a Burris tactical scope..my rifle produces sub MOA accuracy consistently. I would expect similar results from the 243.

Good luck!
 

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Lighter recoil than .30-06, but still good for killing things? The good news is there are plenty of options... the bad news is there are so many it might be hard to decide! For the modern bolt guns, .308, .270, .243, 7mm-08, .260, .280, 6.5 CM to name a few. For surplus rifles, 6.5x55 and 7x57 are some good ones. For something that will fit in an AR, 6.8 SPC, 6.5 Grendel, and .300 blackout are all possibilities. A lever gun in .30-30 or .35 Win. might be the ticket. Getting a reloading press and making some reduced loads for the thirty ought is an option as well.
 

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My advice would be .260 Remington for hunting but not well suited to plinking. Buy yourself an AR15 in .223 and plink away. If you want a plinker and hunter in one then your only option is .308WIN.
 

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Neither one is a great pilnker due to cost and unique, hard to find brass. But for hunting 6.5 Grendel everyday without question. .300 BO blows as a hunting cartridge for anything past 100 yards. The trajectory of that cartridge is like throwing a beach ball comparatively speaking.
 

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A simple bolt gun in .270 will kill anything in Oklahoma, and gives twice the accuracy of an AR at half the price. A .243 would do, except for elk in the Wichita managed hunts. I have a Win Model 70 (bought in 1973) in .270 Winchester with a 4X Weaver scope that has taken everything up to caribou and elk.

Even if you don't reload, reduced factory ammo is available for the 30-06 you already have.

Having gone from too busy to hunt at all to retired, I suggest you get on the range to shoot what you have, look at the latest ammo offerings (not every load has to be for 400 yard shots), and then go hunting with a gun you have. They still work.

Then you can see about building up your gun collection. That's fun too.

Best wishes

Funny you should say that, I spoke with several hunters in Colorado this year that hunted Elk with a .243.
 

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