Our "Wonderful" President Threatened to Shoot Down Israeli Jets

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Mr.357Sig

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Nothing like having a president that would be willing to attack and declare war on an ally.

That is, if this story pans out to be true. If so, all our other allies better be careful.

Obama Threatened to Shoot Down IAF Iran Strike

I wouldn't put anything past our soulless, freedom-hating, anti-Semitic Islamapologist-in-Chief.

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The article link posted saying Netanyahu is a US citizen is a pro Palistinian publication so, I think they're a bit slanted in the opinion department. And as for him giving testimony before congress "as a private citizen" it doesn't say citizen of what country. Foreign citizens testify before congress frequently.

So you wanna argue the citizenship angle as well or just talk semantics?

It's common knowledge that Netanyahoo is or was a U.S. citizen. If you don't know this please raise your hand or post in this thread.
 

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I suspect the recent negotiations between Saudi Arabia and Israel, about air space permission might have something to do with the op's post.

It certainly does put a new spin on the whole Saudi thing. it would be smart of Israel to not put all their eggs in the U.S. basket, particularly with a hostile administration like Obama's in charge. As for the unconfirmed report, IF it actually happened, I wouldn't necessarily dispute refusing Israel free passage over Iraqi airspace, but do we still control it? If not, does the UN or Iraq control it? Serious questions.

I do think it's incredibly poor form of the U.S. an alleged ally of Israel to enter nuclear negotiations with Iran and not at least keep Israel informed. After all, Iranian nukes wouldn't be an existential threat to the U.S. (at least not at first), but it would be an immediate existential threat to Israel. FWIW, I find it ironic that the Obama administration is upset at the breach of protocol by Bibi speaking to Congress, after the aggregious breaches of protocol it's made against him. You don't have to like the guy, but you should have to treat him with the dignity appropriate to an allied foreign Head of State. :(
 

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I'm working only off the information in an article that YOU posted and I read regarding the circumstances in which Israeli aircraft could be challenged. It discusses a particular scenario. Maybe you're getting a little carried away by the headline. Do you believe part but not all of the article? Which part is speculation and which isn't? We can't go wrong calling the whole thing BS from top to bottom.

Perhaps I'm missing something that you've seen. I've read the article a number of times now and this is ALL I find that refers to Israeli jets flying over Iraq:

"Former US diplomat Zbigniew Brzezinski, who enthusiastically campaigned for Obama in 2008, called on him to shoot down Israeli planes if they attack Iran. “They have to fly over our airspace in Iraq. Are we just going to sit there and watch?” said the former national security advisor to former President Jimmy Carter in an interview with the Daily Beast."

Again, the Israeli's don't have to fly over Iraq. Brzezinski's comment "presumes" that they do, and nothing else in the article states that they do.

Do you have any other source of information that states that Israel would have flown over Iraq?
 

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Sooo... You're saying that it's your OPINION that Bibi is an American Citizen then?

Yes I hold the opinion that Netanyahoo is or was a U.S. citizen and he should have his citizenship revoked.

My opinion was formed by the many articles that have been published saying that he holds or held duel citizenship.

Our law is clear in that it forbids Congress from negotiating with foreign Heads of State and that only the President and executive brachial has the authority to do this.

Giving testimony to Congress as a US citizen skirts this Law. If Netanyahoo testified as a head of State to Congress this may constitute a violation of the Logan act....which forbids Congress from seeking testimony thus influencing the Presidents capacity to negotiate with other countries.

Netanyahoo and Bohner are doing this solely because Netayahoo is running for re-election and needs a platform in which to pander for the Jewish vote in the US.

Isreal is the only country that we allow duel citizens to vote in our country and theirs.
No other duel citizens are allowed to do this.

It really is a shame that Bohner invited Netanyahoo to speak (not testify) to Congress. But this is why Congress is in the shape that it's in. Poor leadership.

Next time it'll be $5 for the class on how n why I form my opinion.
 

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Is your opinion based on verifiable facts? I think a lot of Dennis's frustration (I'm not presuming to put words in his mouth) is that you won't post links to the articles. I did a little googling myself and couldn't find an article that had any proof of U.S. Citizenship. Granted, it wasn't thorough research. I'd kind of like to see some of these articles myself.
 

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Giving testimony to Congress as a US citizen skirts this Law.
The only relevant citation you've provided said that he testified as a private citizen, not that he testified as a US citizen. Take in context, it seems clear to me that the phrase is there to distinguish between him testifying as an individual as opposed to testifying in his official capacity as a head of state.

Do you have any evidence to support the contention that Netanyahu has claimed to be a citizen of the US?
Isreal is the only country that we allow duel citizens to vote in our country and theirs.
No other duel citizens are allowed to do this.
Well, dueling has been illegal in the US for better than two centuries, so that shouldn't be surprising. ;) If you mean "dual citizenship," I'd bet there are a bunch of American Indians who will be surprised to find out that you've been granted the authority to revoke their dual citizenship status.

Also see http://travel.state.gov/content/tra...ip-and-dual-nationality/dual-nationality.html
 
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