Surprised No One's Talking About the Big Obamacare Rate Hike Requests???

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Just a paltry 31% for Oklahoma in 2016. Guess no one is surprised? :(

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/04/u...mpanies-seek-big-rate-increases-for-2016.html

WASHINGTON — Health insurance companies around the country are seeking rate increases of 20 percent to 40 percent or more, saying their new customers under the Affordable Care Act turned out to be sicker than expected. Federal officials say they are determined to see that the requests are scaled back.

Blue Cross and Blue Shield plans — market leaders in many states — are seeking rate increases that average 23 percent in Illinois, 25 percent in North Carolina, 31 percent in Oklahoma, 36 percent in Tennessee and 54 percent in Minnesota, according to documents posted online by the federal government and state insurance commissioners and interviews with insurance executives.

The Oregon insurance commissioner, Laura N. Cali, has just approved 2016 rate increases for companies that cover more than 220,000 people. Moda Health Plan, which has the largest enrollment in the state, received a 25 percent increase, and the second-largest plan, LifeWise, received a 33 percent increase.

Jesse Ellis O’Brien, a health advocate at the Oregon State Public Interest Research Group, said: “Rate increases will be bigger in 2016 than they have been for years and years and will have a profound effect on consumers here. Some may start wondering if insurance is affordable or if it’s worth the money.”

President Obama, on a trip to Tennessee this week, said that consumers should put pressure on state insurance regulators to scrutinize the proposed rate increases. If commissioners do their job and actively review rates, he said, “my expectation is that they’ll come in significantly lower than what’s being requested.”

The rate requests, from some of the more popular health plans, suggest that insurance markets are still adjusting to shock waves set off by the Affordable Care Act.

It is far from certain how many of the rate increases will hold up on review, or how much they might change. But already the proposals, buttressed with reams of actuarial data, are fueling fierce debate about the effectiveness of the health law.

A study of 11 cities in different states by the Kaiser Family Foundation found that consumers would see relatively modest increases in premiums if they were willing to switch plans. But if they switch plans, consumers would have no guarantee that they can keep their doctors. And to get low premiums, they sometimes need to accept a more limited choice of doctors and hospitals.

Some say the marketplaces have not attracted enough healthy young people. “As a result, millions of people will face Obamacare sticker shock,” said Senator John Barrasso, Republican of Wyoming.

By contrast, Marinan R. Williams, chief executive of the Scott & White Health Plan in Texas, which is seeking a 32 percent rate increase, said the requests showed that “there was a real need for the Affordable Care Act.”

“People are getting services they needed for a very long time,” Ms. Williams said. “There was a pent-up demand. Over the next three years, I hope, rates will start to stabilize.”

Sylvia Mathews Burwell, the secretary of health and human services, said that federal subsidies would soften the impact of any rate increases. Of the 10.2 million people who obtained coverage through federal and state marketplaces this year, 85 percent receive subsidies in the form of tax credits to help pay premiums.

In an interview, Ms. Burwell said consumers could also try to find less expensive plans in the open enrollment period that begins in November. “You have a marketplace where there is competition,” she said, “and people can shop for the plan that best meets their needs in terms of quality and price.”

Blue Cross and Blue Shield of New Mexico has requested rate increases averaging 51 percent for its 33,000 members. The proposal elicited tart online comments from consumers.

“This rate increase is ridiculous,” one subscriber wrote on the website of the New Mexico insurance superintendent.

In their submissions to federal and state regulators, insurers cite several reasons for big rate increases. These include the needs of consumers, some of whom were previously uninsured; the high cost of specialty drugs; and a policy adopted by the Obama administration in late 2013 that allowed some people to keep insurance that did not meet new federal standards.

“Healthier people chose to keep their plans,” said Amy L. Bowen, a spokeswoman for the Geisinger Health Plan in Pennsylvania, and people buying insurance on the exchange were therefore sicker than expected. Geisinger, often praised as a national model of coordinated care, has requested an increase of 40 percent in rates for its health maintenance organization.

Insurers with decades of experience and brand-new plans underestimated claims costs.

“Our enrollees generated 24 percent more claims than we thought they would when we set our 2014 rates,” said Nathan T. Johns, the chief financial officer of Arches Health Plan, which covers about one-fourth of the people who bought insurance through the federal exchange in Utah. As a result, the company said, it collected premiums of $39.7 million and had claims of $56.3 million in 2014. It has requested rate increases averaging 45 percent for 2016.

The rate requests are the first to reflect a full year of experience with the new insurance exchanges and federal standards that require insurers to accept all applicants, without charging higher prices because of a person’s illness or disability. The 2010 health law established the rate review process, requiring insurance companies to disclose and justify large proposed increases. Under federal rules, increases of 10 percent or more are subject to review.

Federal officials have often highlighted a provision of the Affordable Care Act that caps insurers’ profits and requires them to spend at least 80 percent of premiums on medical care and related activities. “Because of the Affordable Care Act,” Mr. Obama told supporters in 2013, “insurance companies have to spend at least 80 percent of every dollar that you pay in premiums on your health care — not on overhead, not on profits, but on you.”

In financial statements filed with the government in the last two months, some insurers said that their claims payments totaled not just 80 percent, but more than 100 percent of premiums. And that, they said, is unsustainable.

At Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Minnesota, for example, the ratio of claims paid to premium revenues was more than 115 percent, and the company said it lost more than $135 million on its individual insurance business in 2014. “Based on first-quarter results,” it said, “the year-end deficit for 2015 individual business is expected to be significantly higher.”

BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee, the largest insurer in the state’s individual market, said its proposed increase of 36 percent could affect more than 209,000 consumers.

“There’s not a lot of mystery to it,” said Roy Vaughn, a vice president of the Tennessee Blue Cross plan. “We lost a significant amount of money in the marketplace, $141 million, because we were not very accurate in predicting the utilization of health care.”

Julie Mix McPeak, the Tennessee insurance commissioner, said she would ask “hard questions of the companies we regulate, to protect consumers.”

After public hearings and a rigorous review, Ms. Cali, the Oregon insurance commissioner, found that the cost of providing coverage to individuals and families in 2014 was $830 million, while premiums were only $703 million. She directed some carriers to raise rates in 2016 even more than they had proposed.

Health Net, for example, requested rate increases averaging 9 percent in Oregon. The state approved increases averaging 34.8 percent. Oregon’s Health Co-op requested a 5.3 percent increase. The state called for a 19.9 percent increase.

“We share the concerns expressed through public comment about the affordability of health insurance in Oregon,” said Ms. Cali, an actuary. But, she added, “inadequate rates could result in companies going out of business in the middle of the plan year, or being unable to pay claims.”

Coventry Health Care, now owned by Aetna, is seeking rate increases that average 22 percent for 70,000 consumers in Missouri. “The claims experience for these plans has been worse than anticipated,” Coventry reported.

In its proposal to increase rates by an average of 25 percent for more than 397,000 consumers, Blue Cross and Blue Shield of North Carolina cited “inpatient costs, particularly in treatment of cancer and heart conditions, emergency room utilization, and cost for specialty drug medications” to treat hepatitis C, breast cancer and cystic fibrosis.

Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Kansas sought increases averaging 37 percent for 2016 and said the increase could affect 28,600 consumers.

“Kansans who purchased these individual plans since 2014 were older, in general, than expected and required more medical services than anticipated,” the company told federal health officials.
 

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BOOM! Now the reason you can get healthcare with pre existing conditions comes to light. We all pay for it in increased premiums.

This was carefully orchestrated along with the other roll outs to damage the GOP during election cycles. IMHO
 

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BOOM! Now the reason you can get healthcare with pre existing conditions comes to light. We all pay for it in increased premiums.

This was carefully orchestrated along with the other roll outs to damage the GOP during election cycles. IMHO

I think it was equal parts a big money scheme to cash in on. Congress didn't write the ACA, a committee of "architects" wrote it, including "congressional staffers" who were actually writing on behalf of the health care industry. If someone's pockets weren't getting filled, it never would've made it out of committee! :censored:
 

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I think it was equal parts a big money scheme to cash in on. Congress didn't write the ACA, a committee of "architects" wrote it, including "congressional staffers" who were actually writing on behalf of the health care industry. If someone's pockets weren't getting filled, it never would've made it out of committee! :censored:

Exactly. I have a ton of stocks in the medical insurance field. When this first started happening, my thought was to bail. Something told me in the back of my brain that nobody was stupid enough to ruin a profitable business.

Guess I was right. Those stocks are paying well now.
 

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Bill titles are antonyms to their actual intent: Affordable Care Act, Freedom Act, Patriot Act etc. all do exactly the opposite of what they are sold as. We are dumb Americans and will buy anythi....oh snap celebrity gossip news just distracted me. What was I saying?
 

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Exactly. I have a ton of stocks in the medical insurance field. When this first started happening, my thought was to bail. Something told me in the back of my brain that nobody was stupid enough to ruin a profitable business.

Guess I was right. Those stocks are paying well now.

So your health insurance stocks are paying off handsomely?How is that possible when they're losing millions of dollars? I mean... they pointing out right there in the article that the claims made were millions and millions of dollars more than the premiums paid in? I understand they're paying to excess cost out of slush funds, but how is it that they can still pay dividends when posting a loss? I'm not being argumentative or sarcastic... I honestly want to know how this is working?


<edit> My guess is that they have lots of diverse investments that are still allowing them to post a profit, when they're losing money on the provision of healthcare. Although they are talking mainly about individual health insurance... maybe the groups and employment-based programs are making enough of a killing to cover the difference?
 

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So your health insurance stocks are paying off handsomely?How is that possible when they're losing millions of dollars? I mean... they pointing out right there in the article that the claims made were millions and millions of dollars more than the premiums paid in? I understand they're paying to excess cost out of slush funds, but how is it that they can still pay dividends when posting a loss? I'm not being argumentative or sarcastic... I honestly want to know how this is working?


<edit> My guess is that they have lots of diverse investments that are still allowing them to post a profit, when they're losing money on the provision of healthcare. Although they are talking mainly about individual health insurance... maybe the groups and employment-based programs are making enough of a killing to cover the difference?

It's as simple as balancing your budget in two hands, one hand is profits, other hand is losses, switch the two back and forth to whatever you decide to your advantage. It baffles me that a lot of insurers are non profit, but anyway they are allowed to stack up billions of dollars of surplus, money collected from premiums and considered to be net profit to them. That surplus does not have to count on what they pay out on claims, and losses don't have to come out of surplus either. These surplus amounts typically are 3+ times the amount of money they actually need to remain solvent
 

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Bill titles are antonyms to their actual intent: Affordable Care Act, Freedom Act, Patriot Act etc. all do exactly the opposite of what they are sold as. We are dumb Americans and will buy anythi....oh snap celebrity gossip news just distracted me. What was I saying?

Perhaps it isn't that USians are dumb but easily deceived. Most hold the view that government, which is a paper fiction, has the ability to control their lives and destiny. Deception goes as far back as the fictional story of a woman, a serpent and a fruit. People want to believe instead of gathering facts to determine truth. Belief is emotional deception. Makes people feel good. Facts often make people uncomfortable.
 

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I still remember when obama said the average price of health care for a family would go down about $2500 per year..... Mine has gone up $2800 per year in the last two years. As a self employeed person that kind of stings.
 

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