14 Mossberg 500 That ISN’T NFA!

[montesa]

Has anyone ever made one of these? Seems like over the years I've read about quite a few people making them. Couldn't you also legally shorten a Mossberg JIC to 26.5 inches total?

 

[montesa]

http://augerprecisionfirearms.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=111

 

[Relentless]

Sorry to bump an old thread, but might as well bump one before making a new one, that way all the info is in one place

So, under federal law, this isn't nfa but from my interpretation of the oklahoma law, you aren't able to build one, but you can buy one, correct?

Oklahoma law


"Shotguns" as used in the Oklahoma Firearms Act of 1971, Sections 1289.1 through 1289.17 of this title, shall mean any firearm capable of discharging a series of projectiles of any material which may reasonably be expected to be able to cause lethal injury, with a barrel or barrels more than eighteen (18) inches in length, and using either gunpowder, gas or any means of rocket propulsion, but not to include any weapon so designed with a barrel less than eighteen (18) inches in length. In addition, any "shotgun" capable of firing single projectiles but primarily designed to fire multiple projectiles such as "shot" will be regarded as a "shotgun".

 

[henschman]

I am a lawyer, and these are clearly not legal in Oklahoma as a non-NFA item. Real shame how such a nominally pro-gun state can have some requirements that are stricter than Federal law for stuff like this.

From 21 O.S. 1289.18:

A. "Sawed-off shotgun" shall mean any firearm capable of discharging a series of projectiles of any material which may reasonably be expected to be able to cause lethal injury, with a barrel or barrels less than eighteen (18) inches in length, and using either gunpowder, gas or any means of rocket propulsion.

B. "Sawed-off rifle" shall mean any rifle having a barrel or barrels of less than sixteen (16) inches in length or any weapon made from a rifle (whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise) if such a weapon as modified has an overall length of less than twenty-six (26) inches in length, including the stock portion.

C. Every person who has in his possession or under his immediate control a sawed-off shotgun or a sawed-off rifle, whether concealed or not, shall upon conviction be guilty of a felony for the possession of such device, and shall be punishable by a fine not to exceed One Thousand Dollars ($1,000.00), or imprisonment in the State Penitentiary for a period not to exceed two (2) years, or both such fine and imprisonment.

D. It is a defense to prosecution under this section, if the approved application form that authorized the making or transfer of the particular firearm to the defendant, which indicates the registration of the firearm to said defendant pursuant to the National Firearm's Act, is introduced.

 

[NikatKimber]

I am a lawyer, and these are clearly not legal in Oklahoma as a non-NFA item. Real shame how such a nominally pro-gun state can have some requirements that are stricter than Federal law for stuff like this.

From 21 O.S. 1289.18:

We aren't really ahead of the curve on being pro-gun anymore. Certainly not at the end, but there's a lot of states that do a lot more "pioneering" when it comes to pushing the 2A advancement front. We're pretty much a follower state.

 

[cal7.62x39]

Besides all this mossberg is currently not selling the 14vinch components to the public due to this "grey area", and havnt been for at least 6 months. (I have been calling once per month for the last 5-6). Auger precision is not selling them currently either.

 

[Dr. HK]

this website gets allot of the non-nfa shotguns https://www.802traders.com/product-p/802dt1.htm I personally like this one https://www.802traders.com/product-p/802shortymagpul.htm

I been browsing these for some time.

 

[Relentless]

I am a lawyer, and these are clearly not legal in Oklahoma as a non-NFA item. Real shame how such a nominally pro-gun state can have some requirements that are stricter than Federal law for stuff like this.

From 21 O.S. 1289.18:

Does this definition not classify a judge or the super Comanche as a sawed off shotgun then? Seems to me that we could the law changed and have the judge as the excuse

 

[HSIG]

Does this definition not classify a judge or the super Comanche as a sawed off shotgun then? Seems to me that we could the law changed and have the judge as the excuse

Nope. Both are pistols and have rifled barrels.

 

[Relentless]

Nope. Both are pistols and have rifled barrels.

Both fall under this definition

A. "Sawed-off shotgun" shall mean any firearm capable of discharging a series of projectiles of any material which may reasonably be expected to be able to cause lethal injury, with a barrel or barrels less than eighteen (18) inches in length, and using either gunpowder, gas or any means of rocket propulsion.