Trump to halt 'massive' ObamaCare subsidies

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CHenry

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While I share your sentiment, healthcare costs aren't going to drop, no matter what they do. When was the last time Any service you pay for on a monthly basis went down signifigantly? You might save a buck or two, here or there when your home insurance has some new fire-proof tiles or you kick Jr. off your auto insurance.

But they Never will cut rates by 50-75% back to what we were paying pre 2010. The price never goes down, even when high rates aren't justified.

Bought any $.99 cent 22 shells lately? I don't imagine .22LR manufacturing costs have gone up 250% in the last decade, yet here we are. We'll never see .99 cent ammo again.
Seems that last statement contradicts your entire post. .22 is $0.05 but 3 years ago it was higher and in short supply. It went back down.
Ins. will to when given competition from outside state lines.
 

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Obamacare and it's rates is definitely within the confines of the subject. No need to answer, my comment was mostly rhetorical. I know you're young and I'm pretty sure that you have no experience in what you're speaking of. In which I'd be surprised if you paid your own premiums currently.

Thanks to Obamacare I can stay on my parents health insurance until I'm 26. But I do have employee health insurance.

I'm sure you've got no experience with socialized medicine either, but I don't think that has anything to do with policy.
 

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Thanks to Obamacare I can stay on my parents health insurance until I'm 26. But I do have employee health insurance.

I'm sure you've got no experience with socialized medicine either, but I don't think that has anything to do with policy.

Right, so you're a young healthy kid, that is on mommy and daddy's coverage and you know what's best for everyone else? Get some real world experience with healthcare and come back we will talk. You have no clue what it's like for middle income families to pay more than their mortgage for their health insurance only to try and meet a $10-12K deductible if someone get's sick. Bless your millennial heart.

I've placed no less than 100 individuals and families on individual and group healthcare plans because the VA (socialized medicine) was screwing up so bad. So I've seen what government run healthcare in the U.S. would look like. It ain't pretty how we treat our vets.
 

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Right, so you're a young healthy kid, that is on mommy and daddy's coverage and you know what's best for everyone else? Get some real world experience with healthcare and come back we will talk. You have no clue what it's like for middle income families to pay more than their mortgage for their health insurance only to try and meet a $10-12K deductible if someone get's sick. Bless your millennial heart.

I've placed no less than 100 individuals and families on individual and group healthcare plans because the VA (socialized medicine) was screwing up so bad. So I've seen what government run healthcare in the U.S. would look like. It ain't pretty how we treat our vets.

The VA controls the providers, as well. Also, Medicare and Medicaid are actually very efficient compared to private health insurance plans. Infact, Medicare and Medicaid already cover 44% of health expenditure in this country.

Also, I pay for my own healthcare.
 

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http://healthaffairs.org/blog/2011/09/20/medicare-is-more-efficient-than-private-insurance/


  • According to CMS, for common benefits, Medicare spending rose by an average of 4.3 percent each year between 1997 and 2009, while private insurance premiums grew at a rate of 6.5 percent per year. (See Table 13)
  • According to a calculation by the National Academy for Social Insurance, if spending on Medicare rose at the same rate as private insurance premiums during that period, Medicare would have cost an additional $114 billion (or 31.7 percent).
  • The CBO explicitly stated that its data on relative cost growth should not be used to make the argument that Goodman and Saving make, writing that the relatively low growth rate of all health care expenditures other than Medicare and Medicaid “should not be interpreted as meaning that Medicare or Medicaid is less able to control spending than private insurers.” Goodman and Saving mistakenly suggest that the growth rate of private insurance is the same as the growth rate of all health care expenditures other than Medicare and Medicaid; however, as CBO points out, the growth rate of all health care expenditures other than Medicare and Medicaid includes not just spending by private insurers, but also government programs and out-of-pocket costs paid by the uninsured.
  • The CBO has predicted that the rising cost of private insurance will continue to outstrip Medicare for the next 30 years. The private insurance equivalent of Medicare would cost almost 40 percent more in 2022 for a typical 65-year old.
Medicare Has Lower Administrative Costs Than Private Plans.
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Thanks to Obamacare I can stay on my parents health insurance until I'm 26. But I do have employee health insurance.

I'm sure you've got no experience with socialized medicine either, but I don't think that has anything to do with policy.


What's your experience with socialized medicine? Bumming off mom and dad until 26?

You would really benefit from an economics course at your local community college.
 
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