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It is my understanding that Academy will also not release a gun until they get a PROCEED. I don't necessarily like it, but I do understand why some businesses feel it is in their best interest to be cautious these days. Imagine if they let a fella have his AR after the 3 days of waiting on NICS was up without a PROCEED and he turns out to be a nutjob and goes on a rampage.

Well unless they screw up and then they want you to bring it back to them. :bolt:
 

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Sure seems like the guy waiting 3 days has a murky past or a name that matches someone who does. I've never had to wait more that 10 minutes, but my name is not common and probably the only in the US. Bob Smith that has moved 5 times in 20 years is probably flagged and proctologist called.
 

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Anyone ever had their NICS check go on that long? My first gun I bought came back delayed but got approved just as I was about to head back to the car. Scared the crap outta me... Guy at the counter said it was because I'm originally from California and my last name.

So, what's wrong with the last name of "Beef?"



Sure seems like the guy waiting 3 days has a murky past or a name that matches someone who does. I've never had to wait more that 10 minutes, but my name is not common and probably the only in the US. Bob Smith that has moved 5 times in 20 years is probably flagged and proctologist called.

Maybe we are odd. Our last name is "Miller" and we've never had to wait long for an approval of a 4473. Plus, while my first name is a common one (not the "Terry") and the wife's first name is uncommon, it has never been a problem for us. No delays or nothing.
 

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I'm convinced mine is due to an uncommon name as well. My report always comes back as soon as they click "Enter"
For EZ Pawn though, I was told by those working in Enid that they also have a company policy that they won't sell or even show a firearm to someone with an out of state license (yes, even long guns). They said that included military members stationed in Oklahoma.
 

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OK so im wrong in my understanding it was mandatory to release the gun after 3 days.
It is NOT mandatory to release the gun in three days (though the correct term would be three business days). A NICS "delay" lasts until five business days have passed between the day of the check and the day the FFL can make the transfer. The FFL in question can, at his or her discretion, transfer the gun after three business days have passed. However, if you have ever transferred a gun after three business days only to have NICS call back on the fourth day with a "Deny" response, you may become a bit leery of releasing the gun after only three business days (once bitten, twice shy?). And, FWIW, an FFL holder can terminate a transaction if he/she feels uncomfortable in any way about making the transfer.
 

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I'm convinced mine is due to an uncommon name as well. My report always comes back as soon as they click "Enter"
For EZ Pawn though, I was told by those working in Enid that they also have a company policy that they won't sell or even show a firearm to someone with an out of state license (yes, even long guns). They said that included military members stationed in Oklahoma.
Federal law establishes what a FFL holder may legally do or not do, but what you describe is clearly a company policy, and companies do have some latitude in that direction. There are other places that sell guns that do not have such policies.
 

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Federal law establishes what a FFL holder may legally do or not do, but what you describe is clearly a company policy, and companies do have some latitude in that direction. There are other places that sell guns that do not have such policies.
Absolutely. I understand that they have the right to do so. I just don't like the policy and it is costing them business especially here in a prime market for military folks. Oh well, there's several other (BETTER) FFLs around.
 

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If I had a gun store, I'd probably do the same. Especially if it was a customer I've never met before. It's not something worth complaining or boycotting.

It's a business and the first thing they should be concerned about is protecting themselves. I see no problem with their decision at all.

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