Appendix carry

[druryj]

LKEOG... I like it, but OSA is easier to remember. As Dennis said and others would if they only knew; good luck huntin' hogs, and yes, pics would be great.

 

[saddlebum]

AIWB is not for folks with guts. Why you ask?
1. without the proper wedge your gut makes it print like your wearing a TV mic backwards
2. With the wedge if you sit your gut pushes the handle out and you print like a fat kid trying to shoplift a loaf of bread
3. If your dunlop rolls over the grip it may conceal, but having to lift it to get to you rig is gay
4. It hurts to sit in the car, seat belt covering your roll that is covering your gun in an AIWB
5. AIWB is a niche that few actually can get away with comfortably and proficiently

FALSE

 

[prdator]

So AIWB is a large equation that includes
body type
pant ride height
pant fit
belt tension
ride height of holster
cant of holster
length of holster
width of holster
thickness of holster
and shirt fit.

Just to name some of them.

Its not for everyone and that's okay. but for those that want to make it work you normally can if you want to. it has many advantages and done properly no disadvantage. ( aging done properly)

Ill try and get an AIWB skills class set up soon.

 

[JD8]

So I'm fairly curious about AIWB carry. Seen some vids with guys with much bigger "guts" than me carrying full size. What kind of belts and holsters are the "big" boys using? What kind of pistols are you carrying?

 

[dennishoddy]

So I'm fairly curious about AIWB carry. Seen some vids with guys with much bigger "guts" than me carrying full size. What kind of belts and holsters are the "big" boys using? What kind of pistols are you carrying?

I carry my Kahrs AIWB, and they conceal really well, but I don't have a large gut. A full size I'd think would print on anybody.
I remove mine from the holster when entering a vehicle and put it in the map pocket on the door in another holster that is kept there for that purpose, so I don't have to try and fight the seat belt, and it's more comfortable. When exiting, pull the pistol, and put in the waistband holster after removing the seat belt.

 

[JD8]

Hrmmm Removing the gun in and out of the car won't work for me, I'm usually wrangling both kids by myself on the weekends. Which Kahrs are you carrying?

 

[Shadowrider]

@JD8 I thought I'd update my earlier post since you bumped this thread.

I have way too much gut, not as much as some, but more than others and more than I'd like to have. *sigh*

The Keepers holsters work for me. In addition to the wedges, they are adjustable for cant and height so I run them as low in the pants as they will go to reduce printing. That would probably not pass muster with Spencer for draw speed but it works for me. When I actually do a good run, I can run a Fast Drill with my Coolfire trainer in my M&P Shield out of the Errand holster in about 6 seconds reloading from the pocket depending on what pants I wear. If I carried the mag on the belt I could probably hit the 5 second challenge coin time.

They do take some getting used to and one thing Spencer pointed out is that the longer barreled models actually work better and are more comfortable at the same time. Spencer is a big guy and he carried a G35/G34 for a very long time. I think he's routinely running a Beretta 92 these days. But Gabe White isn't real big and he carries a G34 IIRC with even more gear. Don't underestimate this method of carry. My advice is that if you run a compact "short" gun keep it at a single stack thickness. Otherwise bigger (longer) does seem to be better.

I also have to "degun" when I go to the courthouse so I always use the clip. I just put the holster on with the gun in it. Same for taking off. I'm doing this usually in the street, so I need to be a little bit discreet about it even though I'm locking it up in a Hornady Arm Lock Box.

 

[dennishoddy]

Hrmmm Removing the gun in and out of the car won't work for me, I'm usually wrangling both kids by myself on the weekends. Which Kahrs are you carrying?

CW-40's. I've kind of got it down to an art unholstering and reholstering when getting in and out by standing sideways with the door closed on me basically while standing. Keeping the gun low, and getting seated. Same routine when getting out.

 

[JD8]

@JD8 I thought I'd update my earlier post since you bumped this thread.

I have way too much gut, not as much as some, but more than others and more than I'd like to have. *sigh*

The Keepers holsters work for me. In addition to the wedges, they are adjustable for cant and height so I run them as low in the pants as they will go to reduce printing. That would probably not pass muster with Spencer for draw speed but it works for me. When I actually do a good run, I can run a Fast Drill with my Coolfire trainer in my M&P Shield out of the Errand holster in about 6 seconds reloading from the pocket depending on what pants I wear. If I carried the mag on the belt I could probably hit the 5 second challenge coin time.

They do take some getting used to and one thing Spencer pointed out is that the longer barreled models actually work better and are more comfortable at the same time. Spencer is a big guy and he carried a G35/G34 for a very long time. I think he's routinely running a Beretta 92 these days. But Gabe White isn't real big and he carries a G34 IIRC with even more gear. Don't underestimate this method of carry. My advice is that if you run a compact "short" gun keep it at a single stack thickness. Otherwise bigger (longer) does seem to be better.

I also have to "degun" when I go to the courthouse so I always use the clip. I just put the holster on with the gun in it. Same for taking off. I'm doing this usually in the street, so I need to be a little bit discreet about it even though I'm locking it up in a Hornady Arm Lock Box.

I'm gonna be doing some experimentation this year I think. Might involve a Langdon tweaked LTT 92. Good idea with the lock box.

 

[Shadowrider]

I'm gonna be doing some experimentation this year I think. Might involve a Langdon tweaked LTT 92. Good idea with the lock box.

Some of the courthouses aren't in the best part of town. If they want it, they'll have to work a little for it. That box is fairly heavy, has locks on 3 sides and the arm isn't getting cut like a cable can be. I don't worry much about leaving my gat in my car with it.

Dang. Looks like they discontinued this model.