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Look out northwest of Coalgate on the highway towards Calvin. There's a piece of land out there with 6 foot barbed wire fence with a road that goes back over the hills so you can't see anything from the road. There's a porta potty at the gate, and usually someone parked there as a security guard.
 

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OKDF (Oklahoma Defense Force) is the current Oklahoma citizen's militia.

As for VPN and packet sniffing, the Fed doesn't need to do that they are literally recording every internet transaction that occurs. Then they use AI to sift for trigger words, phrases. If the Ai identifies something a signal analyst looks into it to "determine" if there is a threat. This is one of the reasons I am so adamantly against Red Flag laws. Do you really think the gov under control of the DSA/dnc would hesitate for even one second to label every person that has stated that they are pro 2A as a threat?
Now I have been told by several folks, not here but elsewhere, that the Fed cannot have that capability. That is a fairy tale. How many Cray, and other super computers does the fed have? How many do you really think it would take to do that? Who controls the satellites, where 90% or better of the info on the net travels through? So it is not only possible but it is probable that this is taking place as we speak. Look at your home computer and ask yourself "How much of that machine's computing power do I actually use?" Then think about how much it really has and you will see what I am saying.
While on the subject anybody besides me wonder why Google hasn't been slapped with hundreds of millions in fines for it's blatant manipulation of the 2016 presidential election, or it's data logging and archiving of personal information of everybody who uses any of their apps, including Google Maps? Why have they not been censured for their KEY role in the AI, Neuro-net tech, and search engine design of the China social merit system? Could it be that our own gov is tapping this info source also and they don't want to loose it? Something to ponder.
 

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OKDF (Oklahoma Defense Force) is the current Oklahoma citizen's militia.

As for VPN and packet sniffing, the Fed doesn't need to do that they are literally recording every internet transaction that occurs. Then they use AI to sift for trigger words, phrases. If the Ai identifies something a signal analyst looks into it to "determine" if there is a threat. This is one of the reasons I am so adamantly against Red Flag laws. Do you really think the gov under control of the DSA/dnc would hesitate for even one second to label every person that has stated that they are pro 2A as a threat?
Now I have been told by several folks, not here but elsewhere, that the Fed cannot have that capability. That is a fairy tale. How many Cray, and other super computers does the fed have? How many do you really think it would take to do that? Who controls the satellites, where 90% or better of the info on the net travels through? So it is not only possible but it is probable that this is taking place as we speak. Look at your home computer and ask yourself "How much of that machine's computing power do I actually use?" Then think about how much it really has and you will see what I am saying.
While on the subject anybody besides me wonder why Google hasn't been slapped with hundreds of millions in fines for it's blatant manipulation of the 2016 presidential election, or it's data logging and archiving of personal information of everybody who uses any of their apps, including Google Maps? Why have they not been censured for their KEY role in the AI, Neuro-net tech, and search engine design of the China social merit system? Could it be that our own gov is tapping this info source also and they don't want to loose it? Something to ponder.
Or they, (gov) see the value added resource they could have in the near future or may have already been using.
 

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OKDF (Oklahoma Defense Force) is the current Oklahoma citizen's militia.

Who controls the satellites, where 90% or better of the info on the net travels through? So it is not only possible but it is probable that this is taking place as we speak.


Um, the internet, except for those using satellite internet, does not go through satellites. Period. The response time would be horrendous (ask anyone who has ever tried to game on satellite internet). The internet actually runs through fiber optic backbones that criss cross the US and goes underwater to different countries. Satellite internet goes from the customer to the satellite, then the company's headend where it connects to a backbone. And no, the government does not have enough computing power to monitor every single packet that is sent in the US. Sorry, but not possible. Now if they identify someone of interest they can packet sniff via the ISP copying and rerouting packets originating from their modem, that is all too plausible. To illustrate my point lets look at two theoretical ways the gov could do this. One: inspect every packet as its sent. This would slow traffic way down. A good ping time is about 50 ms. If the gov was inspecting the packets that would probably jump up to 300 ms or more (remember, it is inspecting every single packet in the US). There would not be enough Crays in the world to monitor that much traffic on the fly without bogging it down. Two: all packets are copied and sent to the gov. Yeah, they would need to take the entire state of Montana and turn it into a server farm just to house that data for a single day. Think of every social media post, every good search, every porn video watched, etc etc.

Either way its just not possible. That is some severe tin hat conspiracy with 0% validity.
 

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Look out northwest of Coalgate on the highway towards Calvin. There's a piece of land out there with 6 foot barbed wire fence with a road that goes back over the hills so you can't see anything from the road. There's a porta potty at the gate, and usually someone parked there as a security guard.
Sounds like my hunting area. Poachers beware.....
 

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OKDF (Oklahoma Defense Force) is the current Oklahoma citizen's militia.

As for VPN and packet sniffing, the Fed doesn't need to do that they are literally recording every internet transaction that occurs. Then they use AI to sift for trigger words, phrases. If the Ai identifies something a signal analyst looks into it to "determine" if there is a threat. This is one of the reasons I am so adamantly against Red Flag laws. Do you really think the gov under control of the DSA/dnc would hesitate for even one second to label every person that has stated that they are pro 2A as a threat?
Now I have been told by several folks, not here but elsewhere, that the Fed cannot have that capability. That is a fairy tale. How many Cray, and other super computers does the fed have? How many do you really think it would take to do that? Who controls the satellites, where 90% or better of the info on the net travels through? So it is not only possible but it is probable that this is taking place as we speak. Look at your home computer and ask yourself "How much of that machine's computing power do I actually use?" Then think about how much it really has and you will see what I am saying.
While on the subject anybody besides me wonder why Google hasn't been slapped with hundreds of millions in fines for it's blatant manipulation of the 2016 presidential election, or it's data logging and archiving of personal information of everybody who uses any of their apps, including Google Maps? Why have they not been censured for their KEY role in the AI, Neuro-net tech, and search engine design of the China social merit system? Could it be that our own gov is tapping this info source also and they don't want to loose it? Something to ponder.

IOS not included in your post. They want a back door to that but to date, they are not allowed.
 

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Um, the internet, except for those using satellite internet, does not go through satellites. Period. The response time would be horrendous (ask anyone who has ever tried to game on satellite internet). The internet actually runs through fiber optic backbones that criss cross the US and goes underwater to different countries. Satellite internet goes from the customer to the satellite, then the company's headend where it connects to a backbone. And no, the government does not have enough computing power to monitor every single packet that is sent in the US. Sorry, but not possible. Now if they identify someone of interest they can packet sniff via the ISP copying and rerouting packets originating from their modem, that is all too plausible. To illustrate my point lets look at two theoretical ways the gov could do this. One: inspect every packet as its sent. This would slow traffic way down. A good ping time is about 50 ms. If the gov was inspecting the packets that would probably jump up to 300 ms or more (remember, it is inspecting every single packet in the US). There would not be enough Crays in the world to monitor that much traffic on the fly without bogging it down. Two: all packets are copied and sent to the gov. Yeah, they would need to take the entire state of Montana and turn it into a server farm just to house that data for a single day. Think of every social media post, every good search, every porn video watched, etc etc.

Either way its just not possible. That is some severe tin hat conspiracy with 0% validity.
So your saying it's not possible for the government to spy on you via your internet/TV/windows?
 

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