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I think this could be an interesting thing for certain. IMO If someone made a stupid and non-violent decision when they were 16-18, and now they are in their 30s-40s, have done their time and have become an upstanding citizen, I see no reason that they should continue to be penalized. HOWEVER, this should not be a sweeping legislative action, it should be reviewed on a case and circumstance specific basis. Kind of like the restoration of right to own a firearm.
 

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"One of the other major concerns is who is allowed to vote. Under Biden's order, felons will have their voting rights restored upon the completion of their sentence."

So what? Once sentence and probation is done, debt has been paid. All rights restored once that is done.

My complaint with all this is the means to achieve it. Congress not writing laws anymore, agencies and presidents create laws with the stroke of a pen.
 

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"One of the other major concerns is who is allowed to vote. Under Biden's order, felons will have their voting rights restored upon the completion of their sentence."

So what? Once sentence and probation is done, debt has been paid. All rights restored once that is done.

My complaint with all this is the means to achieve it. Congress not writing laws anymore, agencies and presidents create laws with the stroke of a pen.
I agree to that point as well. I'm not a fan no matter the president, we have checks and balances for a reason.
 

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Is this not what the pardon process is for? That way the nature of the crime and the behavior of the convicted felon after completing their sentence can be evaluated to determine if restoration of rights could potentially bring harm to the public?
 

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I think this could be an interesting thing for certain. IMO If someone made a stupid and non-violent decision when they were 16-18, and now they are in their 30s-40s, have done their time and have become an upstanding citizen, I see no reason that they should continue to be penalized. HOWEVER, this should not be a sweeping legislative action, it should be reviewed on a case and circumstance specific basis. Kind of like the restoration of right to own a firearm.

I see it as if you've served the time, you return to society with each and every right completely intact. If you can't be trusted with any sort of arm, you must be kept in prison or an institution if you haven't been executed. Plain and simple, easy to understand, and effective. This is about trust, not punishment/penalizing.

Woody
 

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I think this could be an interesting thing for certain. IMO If someone made a stupid and non-violent decision when they were 16-18, and now they are in their 30s-40s, have done their time and have become an upstanding citizen, I see no reason that they should continue to be penalized. HOWEVER, this should not be a sweeping legislative action, it should be reviewed on a case and circumstance specific basis. Kind of like the restoration of right to own a firearm.
I agree with this. Had a buddy with a felony cause he had some weed on him. now its legal, and he's still a felon. Not a bad guy, wasn't dealing, just had a little too much on his person. I don't see why he couldn't eventually get his rights to vote and own firearms again. aside from his one transgression he had a spotless record and is a stand up guy.
 

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I agree with this. Had a buddy with a felony cause he had some weed on him. now its legal, and he's still a felon. Not a bad guy, wasn't dealing, just had a little too much on his person. I don't see why he couldn't eventually get his rights to vote and own firearms again. aside from his one transgression he had a spotless record and is a stand up guy.
That is my point exactly, have had a couple friends in similar situations when they were younger. But now they can’t buy their son a 22 cause of a stupid past decision made when they were a teenager.
 

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