Joe Cooper Ford in Edmond - No Firearms Posting

[HoLeChit]

I think the "no firearms" signs are for criminals and the "no open carry" signs are to protect you from being "that guy."

Most dealers have no gun signs… it’s largely due to the fact there’s a disproportionate amount of felons who are car salesman.

These sentiments for sure. I have two thoughts about it as well. Before pulling the woke card, I would look at this as the business owner. Yes, people are sensitive about guns, but hey, even I get a little nervous around some kid standing around that keeps putting his hand on that chromed out 1911 that he’s carrying in a homemade Tandy leather holster. Having a no open carry sign prevents dumb stuff from happening, “those guys” from showing up, and helps retain your more sensitive customers without infringing on anyone’s rights.

Furthermore, if I interpret the law right, if you leave your firearm in the car, it needs to be locked up and secure from anyone else having access. Anyone I know who was a car dealership mechanic has seen many firearms unsecured. There’s no restrictions to felons being mechanics, and it’s easier to put up the sign up to prevent dumb customers from breaking the law and leaving firearms in the vehicle than it is to deal with the liability issues and putting your employees at risk. I had an acquaintance who was a felon an had to deal with something similar, he had to quit because his employer wouldn’t put controls in place to prevent situations like him accidentally stumbling across firearms, putting him at risk of getting locked up after getting his life straight.

I've always heard dealerships make most of there money off of parts and the service department. I would stay away from them myself. Parts and service are both overpriced most of the time.

I dunno about cars, but in the heavy equipment business that is definitely the business model. Parts are typically billed at a 30% mark up.

 

[TANSTAAFL]

Actually don't we have a law in place that states concealed carry is kewl where there are "No Gun" laws posted (except for Schools and Post Offices and other gov't buildings?) The only caviate is if someone asks you to leave because you have a firearm, you need to leave. Am I wrong?

 

[OKCHunter]

Actually don't we have a law in place that states concealed carry is kewl where there are "No Gun" laws posted (except for Schools and Post Offices and other gov't buildings?) The only caviate is if someone asks you to leave because you have a firearm, you need to leave. Am I wrong?

I think that is essentially correct, here in Oklahoma. If you don’t leave when asked then you can be charged with trespassing.

 

[Aries]

Actually don't we have a law in place that states concealed carry is kewl where there are "No Gun" laws posted (except for Schools and Post Offices and other gov't buildings?) The only caviate is if someone asks you to leave because you have a firearm, you need to leave. Am I wrong?

You're basically correct. The law says they can put up a No Guns sign, but there is no penalty for ignoring it. However, if they ask you to leave and you don't, the police will come and trespass you.

 

[rockchalk06]

By the way, there's no such verboten sign in my garage....


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And it gets done right the first time!

 

[OKCHunter]

I need to stop by Joe Cooper and see if those signs are still posted after my complaint (and hopefully others). Since discovering the postings last month, I have ordered a new truck (will likely trade-in my F-250), and had $1,000 of warranty service done on my daughter’s vehicle. This business / work was done by a different Ford dealership that is not posted with a no firearms sign.

 

[BobbyV]

Actually don't we have a law in place that states concealed carry is kewl where there are "No Gun" laws posted (except for Schools and Post Offices and other gov't buildings?) The only caviate is if someone asks you to leave because you have a firearm, you need to leave. Am I wrong?

I work in a Federal building without armed security . . . I'd be shocked if there isn't someone with a gun in a purse at work right now.

 

[Fredkrueger100]

Kinda like the folks that get “triggered” when seeing American flags or MAGA hats? They are likely seeing a large reduction in premium costs by putting up that sign. I’m with those that say just carry and ignore the sign.

Sometimes we tend to be in the Woke or Cancel Culture mindset, but on the opposite end of the spectrum.

For me, if I want their goods or service, its not worth getting upset about.

Besides, I keep hoping that I’ll see that little lady that asks, “Who loves ya Oklahoma?”.

Well they are sure loving me right now. My truck is in there again after having my AC compressor replaced and the accumulator. Thankfully my extended warranty paid for it or it would have cost me almost $2000. My AC wasn’t getting that cold so I took it back in last week. Now my AC core is bad and the door actuators are also. My warranty will pay the $2000 to replace and recharge the core but not the door actuators. So it will cost me almost a grand for those.

 

[Rooster1971]

Well they are sure loving me right now. My truck is in there again after having my AC compressor replaced and the accumulator. Thankfully my extended warranty paid for it or it would have cost me almost $2000. My AC wasn’t getting that cold so I took it back in last week. Now my AC core is bad and the door actuators are also. My warranty will pay the $2000 to replace and recharge the core but not the door actuators. So it will cost me almost a grand for those.

What brand of truck? A grand for the blend door?

 

[Fredkrueger100]

What brand of truck? A grand for the blend door?

It’s a 2014 F150 FX4. I didn’t know what the blend door was so I had to look it up. Lol. He didn’t call it the blend door he just said the “doors” weren’t closing all the way and were allowing hot air to get in when it shouldn’t. He said they were only gonna charge me .6 hours per side for labor to change them since they already had to change the AC core. And he told me the price for two of them were about $40 a piece and the other two were about $60 a piece.