Glad i wasn't carring my gun today

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"I am going to tell a story that happened a couple of hours ago and how tempers from a little traffic incident (yelling/flipping the bird from both parties) can get out of hand even with people you have known for 20 years. I was sitting in the living room just about to finish lunch when i hear yelling outside, a car door slam and more yelling then a white truck stops in the neighbors drive way. i see my daughter in tears screaming through the window, i run outside and see that she was yelling at my neighbors dad who i have been friendly with for 20 yrs when we moved in. She screamed that he called her a whore and being a father i asked if this is true he yelled yes i did, for some reason it set me off too and i got loud and yelled back at him. I told him told call my daughter a whore, i dont care what she did but you do not call her a whore. He was about 15-20 ft away and started to come towards me an step onto my property coming at in anger and my hand went to my side to pull my gun. In the heat of the moment i would have shot him, in anger. This is not the whole story, but a snap shot of it, just needed a case of PBR and some newports to make it a episode of cops. This is not a post of how bad i think i am, its a post about how i lost my cool and worse lost my control and if i would have been armed that i would of taken a man's life. After a little yelling, then allot of heated talking we shook hands. He even come back to apologize to my daughter. I hope people can understand my story and how to be careful in not letting feeling/anger cloud your judgement and you react."

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No I didn't miss it at all. He was coming at him but wasn't brandishing a pistol or a knife, or carrying a baseball bat. You mean to tell me if someone comes at you completely unarmed, you think that is justification to pull out your pistol and shoot him? Let's see what the district attorney and the courts might have to say about that.
 

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At no time does it sound like there was any life-threatening circumstances that should cause you to even consider pulling a gun on someone. Maybe you don't really have any business carrying a gun or having a permit to do so. That's why so many domestic situations end up in shootings. You have lots of people that don't have any business even having a gun around.
Delete this before someone takes you serious. If someone comes running at you from 15-20 feet away with rage in their eyes and you don't drop them you deserve the beating you're about to get, and the curbstomp afterward. Only an idiot would stand there and take the concussions until a knife is pulled, particularly if they're over 50.
 

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I think tensions are high for everyone and some people will snap. But that’s not an excuse and I doubt a court will think that either.

I’m with mavs, at least the logic he’s discussing is how I was taught in the concealed carry class I took 11 years ago. You don’t use a gun unless your life or family’s life is being threatened. Just because he’s pissed and walking towards you isn’t a justified shooting in my opinion.

Now if the daughter was in the op situation and a guy was coming towards her acting like he was going to do physical harm, all bets are off and I think that would be justified to end it with a firearm.

That’s just the stuff I remember from my cc class. I’ve never been in that situation, but can’t see myself going for a firearm in most situations like that.
 

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In the heat of the moment i would have shot him, in anger.
This is the concerning part for me.

May be able to make a self defense case, depending on other facts, but doesn't sound like that was the thinking here. I would like to think I'd never go to a gun out of anger.
 

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Delete this before someone takes you serious. If someone comes running at you from 15-20 feet away with rage in their eyes and you don't drop them you deserve the beating you're about to get, and the curbstomp afterward. Only an idiot would stand there and take the concussions until a knife is pulled, particularly if they're over 50.
Tink....you sound kind of like one of those who has a gun but probably shouldn't.

"Tink" isn't that the nickname Peter Pan had for Tinkerbell ?
 

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My daughter was in the wrong too, and it caused another fight with me and her. I aint her mother, its facts over feelings for me.
I'm glad it ended well, but unless she started yelling names at him first he had no place calling her a whore particularly for a traffic problem. People spend too much time on the internet now that they think it's OK to cuss someone out in public and puff up without paying a price. Best case scenario happened i guess, but at the very minimum he was asking for a fat lip. Worst case he'd be pushing up daisies and rightfully so after marching angrily across your property with obvious intent to do you both harm.
My daughter was in the wrong too, and it caused another fight with me and her. I aint her mother, its facts over feelings for me. and i did pick up a T post and started to swing but im glad i didnt. With what america is about to endure i want friends or at least people who are not my enemies around me. It was a eye opener on how i need to work on my control more and not lose frame in a heated situation. I have not come that close to a fight since i left OSP back in '05. But when i realized what i was about to do, i stepped back and started de-escalating instead of trying to dick measure the problem. Oh to the guys comment about me being crazy...yes......yes i am. certified. I just want people to understand you can get caught up in something and spin out of control before you realize that something is a minor thing.
 
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