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Once you go Mac you never go back.
Yep. That old 2014 computer I mentioned? It's a 27" iMac with a 5k screen.

This new little 8" x 8" tiny thing will do one 6K monitor if you want to pony up for one and another 4K monitor. I'm scraping by with twin 32" 4k's and contemplating throwing a huge ultrawide on the wall above them because I still don't have enough screen for all the windows I need for work. :grumble:
 

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I'm running a Windows 11 APM insider version on a M1 Mac Mini with Parallels. It works. I only subject myself to this torture because I have to for my Quickbooks Desktop software because I refuse to move my company financial stuff online. I detest Microsoft only second to Quickbooks. There's no other option that's as easy or I'd jump ship right now.

I just set this new computer up in the last couple of weeks and my mind is utterly blown at how fast the new Apple silicon is. It's a game changer. My old 2014 machine was no slouch when it came to specs. 16gig of RAM, Fusion drive w/SSD and quad processors. This little thing runs rings around it while laughing.
Years ago there was a software OS system called Geoworks. It ran on Windows 3.2 and was self sufficient in that the spreadsheet, word processor, and business accounting software all talked to each other and you could transfer data from one program to another easily. It went away because Geoworks would not open its platform to any other developer, unlike Windows.

I loved Geoworks. I fought long and hard to keep it for years after it quit being supported. It had thirty-one 3.5 floppy disks to load the software and about #27 I would get a read error.
 

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Years ago there was a software OS system called Geoworks. It ran on Windows 3.2 and was self sufficient in that the spreadsheet, word processor, and business accounting software all talked to each other and you could transfer data from one program to another easily. It went away because Geoworks would not open its platform to any other developer, unlike Windows.

I loved Geoworks. I fought long and hard to keep it for years after it quit being supported. It had thirty-one 3.5 floppy disks to load the software and about #27 I would get a read error.
It's pretty amazing that Microsoft took over the world with the half assed software they put out. OSX is light years ahead of Windows. I've ran for months at a time without rebooting. I have a couple of little quibbles with OSX such as requiring more mouse clicks, especially on multiple monitors than Windoze but I can live with those quibbles. Apple stuff just works, it's that simple. If it wasn't for having to submit my work in Office file formats I'd not have it at all. I can't do my reports in Numbers or Pages and save as .xlsx or .docx either. It works but the formatting of pages, columns, etc. isn't close enough.

I could rock and roll on Wordperfect and Lotus and I have yet to figure out MS Word after all these years. Wordperfect with reveal code mode on is just dirt simple as to formatting, you could figure out what you needed and where really easily. Word is like reading Chinese with only 1/4 of their alphabet. It's pathetic. And it's downright maddening if you want to delete multiple pages in the middle of a file without just setting a .45LC on the backspace key and taking a nap like I almost did the other day when I needed to delete a couple of thousand pages. Luckily I found a youtube video on how to do it and I'd have never figured that **** out. It ain't in the help or support. I do fairly well with Excel which is usually 95% of my work, but Lotus was way better back way in the day. You could record keyboard macros super easy to type repetitive stuff and do stuff like bold or format a cell or even several things at once if you could figure out the sequence that you needed. I've not seen that ability with anything MS yet and we're over 30 years down the road!

On the other hand it's also kind of amazing that MS Office for Mac works as good as it does. I've used a Mac exclusively for about ten years and only in the last couple of months have I had to use Word inside Windows for anything at all and I've never once had a file format issue between the two. That something that popped up on me is doing mail merges using the mail merge wizard in Word. My bosses at work had to have it. MS just up and took it out of Office 365 for Mac in an "update". It used to be there but it is no moar! There's also not a thing about it in any release notes I could find on it either. I found that in a support forum.

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When Windoze 10 forces migration to Windoze 11 my move will be to Linux Mint. It runs Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird. It comes with Libre Office, which reads and writes my MS Word and Excel files. I am already running Linux Mint on one laptop and Win10 on another. For me, the transition from Win10 to Linux is easier and smoother than the transition from Win8 to Win10. I am not aware of anything in Win11 that I actually want. A lot of the recent changes in Windoze seem to be made to give Microsoft more control. I don't want Cortana. I don't want Edge. I don't want Microsoft Store. I don't want to store my files on the cloud. Moving to Linux seems to be the most logical choice for me.
 

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I'm running a Windows 11 APM insider version on a M1 Mac Mini with Parallels. It works. I only subject myself to this torture because I have to for my Quickbooks Desktop software because I refuse to move my company financial stuff online. I detest Microsoft only second to Quickbooks. There's no other option that's as easy or I'd jump ship right now.

I just set this new computer up in the last couple of weeks and my mind is utterly blown at how fast the new Apple silicon is. It's a game changer. My old 2014 machine was no slouch when it came to specs. 16gig of RAM, Fusion drive w/SSD and quad processors. This little thing runs rings around it while laughing.
I get so sick of QB's constant push to move to an online product. Now it seems the Premier 2022 version is $550 per year, so I guess if you won't move online, then they'll just charge you like you did. I've started looking for other options several times in the past but always gave up. Maybe this will be the year.

On original topic, I switched to 11 a couple months ago and have had no real issues. Some of the menus and things being moved around is annoying but no functional problems.
 

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I installed it on one laptop and have not had any major issues, but it does change things a bit. They put cut and paste behind an extra step on a right click. You have to get into a sub menu to use it and it's kind of annoying. That is the only thing I have come across in the months I have had it.
But they did give some little icons at the top of the first menu for cut/paste/delete...etc. They don't jump out at you though.
 

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I get so sick of QB's constant push to move to an online product. Now it seems the Premier 2022 version is $550 per year, so I guess if you won't move online, then they'll just charge you like you did. I've started looking for other options several times in the past but always gave up. Maybe this will be the year.

On original topic, I switched to 11 a couple months ago and have had no real issues. Some of the menus and things being moved around is annoying but no functional problems.
Yep. I've been looking for about 5 years and nothing is as easy. I have it for payroll tax filings. It's uber simple and takes me about 5 minutes a month to do all of them. Otherwise I'd **** can the whole thing.

QB is pushing very hard to move us online because they charge a lot more for it. Their website is designed to hide their desktop offerings. You have to really dig for them. The online payroll module is almost double, or it was, but they have jacked the pricing up to close the gap some between the two. I just bought probably my last version and I'll likely run it for two years or until they quit supporting payroll on it which USED to be two years before you had to upgrade your desktop package. Oh wait, the version I bought is a 15 month subscription because I got it through Sam's club. So I'll have to renew my desktop too.

If nothing else comes out that competes by then I'll just turn it all over to my CPA. He's pricey but QB payroll is almost to the point he charges anyway. I'd rather pay someone local to do it rather than QB. Their pricing is ridiculous because there's nothing else that competes.
 

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Once you go Mac you never go back.
Not necessarily true. I hate Macs. Won't ever use one again. They are a great deal more expensive, and Apple seems to love to make the hardware obsolete by upgrading the software. Not all that fond of MS anymore, either, as they've been doing that same crap for a while now.

What I WANT is a modernized version of CP/M-86. You know what they say about wanting in one hand...

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Not necessarily true. I hate Macs. Won't ever use one again. They are a great deal more expensive, and Apple seems to love to make the hardware obsolete by upgrading the software. Not all that fond of MS anymore, either, as they've been doing that same crap for a while now.

What I WANT is a modernized version of CP/M-86. You know what they say about wanting in one hand...

Bill
What hardware has been made obsolete by software? Yes, after several years the updates aren’t available for older machines. I’ve never had a pc last longer than 3 years.
 

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