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Heck, I've seen even recently new Glocks retailing for under $500. Maybe not gen 5, gen 1 through 3. I don't love Glocks but they are a good firearm. I have even seen M & P's for under $500 new.
I wonder how many cops, etc have had accidental discharges with Glocks, etc. Or even poor, defenseless coffee tables been badly injured? :P :P :P
 

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Almost all of these are caused by human mistakes, but the design of the Glock and similar pistols makes it more likely to happen. I know far to many people who's finger is inside the trigger guard on the draw.

Perhaps the most significant criticism came from the FBI. The FBI Academy's firearms training unit tested various semiautomatic handguns and in a 1988 report gave the Glock low marks for safety. The report cited the weapon's "high potential for unintentional shots."

Glock uses the marketing term “Safe Action” to describe its firing-pin system, but the truth is that Glocks are accident-prone. They contributed to more than 120 accidental discharges in the Washington Metropolitan Police Department from 1988 to 1998.


“Timothy Stansbury died in a New York housing project stairwell in 2004 because he startled a police officer. The officer’s surprise at encountering Stansbury caused the officer’s hand to clench and his weapon to fire…

…Akai Gurley died in another New York housing project stairwell last fall. A rookie officer with his finger on the trigger of his pistol tensed as he pushed open a stuck door; the added pressure on the trigger caused his weapon to fire a shot down the stairwell. The round ricocheted off the wall to strike Gurley. Though the shot wasn’t intentional and the officer didn’t even know Gurley was there, the death has been ruled a criminal homicide, and the officer’s trial is pending.”

“Just last month, Ocala, Fla., Police Officer Jared Forsyth was shot and killed by a fellow officer after a Glock training session. The fellow officer failed to do a chamber check before pulling the trigger as part of the handgun’s normal disassembly procedure. When the gun fired, the bullet went through a gap in Forsyth’s body armor. Despite the efforts of paramedics to keep him alive, the young officer died on the way to a hospital.”
 

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Almost all of these are caused by human mistakes, but the design of the Glock and similar pistols makes it more likely to happen. I know far to many people who's finger is inside the trigger guard on the draw.

Perhaps the most significant criticism came from the FBI. The FBI Academy's firearms training unit tested various semiautomatic handguns and in a 1988 report gave the Glock low marks for safety. The report cited the weapon's "high potential for unintentional shots."

Glock uses the marketing term “Safe Action” to describe its firing-pin system, but the truth is that Glocks are accident-prone. They contributed to more than 120 accidental discharges in the Washington Metropolitan Police Department from 1988 to 1998.


“Timothy Stansbury died in a New York housing project stairwell in 2004 because he startled a police officer. The officer’s surprise at encountering Stansbury caused the officer’s hand to clench and his weapon to fire…

…Akai Gurley died in another New York housing project stairwell last fall. A rookie officer with his finger on the trigger of his pistol tensed as he pushed open a stuck door; the added pressure on the trigger caused his weapon to fire a shot down the stairwell. The round ricocheted off the wall to strike Gurley. Though the shot wasn’t intentional and the officer didn’t even know Gurley was there, the death has been ruled a criminal homicide, and the officer’s trial is pending.”

“Just last month, Ocala, Fla., Police Officer Jared Forsyth was shot and killed by a fellow officer after a Glock training session. The fellow officer failed to do a chamber check before pulling the trigger as part of the handgun’s normal disassembly procedure. When the gun fired, the bullet went through a gap in Forsyth’s body armor. Despite the efforts of paramedics to keep him alive, the young officer died on the way to a hospital.”
While we can copy and paste incidents all day. My money says You’ll find more ADs and malfunctions with ANY brand of weapon than you will find with Glock. I guarantee the ADs you posted were user error and not the fault of the firearm. Having said that I am also aware that there are a bunch of “kitchen Table Gunsmiths” out there. Anything that has been tampered with by the untrained becomes dangerous to all.
 

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While we can copy and paste incidents all day. My money says You’ll find more ADs and malfunctions with ANY brand of weapon than you will find with Glock. I guarantee the ADs you posted were user error and not the fault of the firearm. Having said that I am also aware that there are a bunch of “kitchen Table Gunsmiths” out there. Anything that has been tampered with by the untrained becomes dangerous to all.
Agreed and like I said, I am sure most of those were caused by humans. I just think the Glock design makes human error more likely. Heck I have not carried a striker fired handgun since the late 70s when a friend shot himself in the a$$ with my old MAB model D 380. He went to shove it in his back pocket without the safety on and something tripped the trigger. He swears his finger was not on the trigger so maybe the corner of his wallet is all I can figure.

Remember a year or so ago I had one of this small Smiths 9mms and could not get comfortable enough with it carry more than a few times. I traded it off for a RIA 9mm 1911 and could not be happier.

Heck I admit I am old fashion and my preferred carry would be a single action revolver if people did not freak out.
 

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@RickN I won’t mess with you on the Rock Osland. Rocks are decent little weapons. But I’ll tell you this. Take your rock. Take a Glock 17,19,43x and run 1000 rounds through them. I gurantee the rock jams before it’s all over. Where the Glock wouldn’t
 

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