question for the Christ believers

[punxsy]

That requires citation friend. The teachings that are recorded the earliest(so far) have a very different depiction of the intent and meaning behind the word. You have been taught to just believe what a man tells you that god intended, or meant, or should have said. The actual original txt in Aramaic as far back as we have found is a wholly different set of books and teaching with context and prespectives represented differently. My only point is, what, why, and by whom have all be manipulated by dark forces that have been pulling the strings and hiding the truth of God for more than 2000years. If the beings originally depicted in the bible were handed a kjv bible today, it would not only anger them, but they would have alot of questions about how we ended up with a series of books so devoid of the power they once had. Its not a secret, its not even all been removed, there are clear rewritings, clear plagiarism, and contradictions. Im not saying God isnt real, actually i have been on the other side and revived. I dont claim these things to change anyone or what they believe, but i was very strongly urged to share certain thjngs with anyone who god shows me, needs to hear it, even if they dont accept it. " no religion that mans hand has written is true, and alot have a purpose to obscure the what God wants us to hear and know. God is so much more than most people could even grasp.
Ps God isnt fond of the jealous, blood thirsty, slave commanding, materialistic, nepotistic, human like depiction he has been labeled with. (Like when children of a village make jokes about a mans bald head, and God commands a she bear to run from the forest and kill all the kids that made fun of his blading head) which is to say, dont believe, confirm. Dont guess and assume, just open a personal dialog with God and take the true word. The word of our creator, not the catholic churchs version that helps them hide in plain sight as predatory perverts.

Excuse me, I have an appointment on Planet Earth.

 

[Osage1978]

Lots of opinions & bitterness on this thread. I'll say this look to the Bible for your answer because men can be & often are wrong

 

[DavidMcmillan]

Take the debates elsewhere, this isn't the time or the place. This thread is for a solid member with a serious question.

 

[turkeyrun]

Take the debates elsewhere, this isn't the time or the place. This thread is for a solid member with a serious question.

A question to which no man has an definitive answer.

 

[NomDeBoom]

Without delving into this particular case:
All I'll say is that, 'Suicide is (often) a permanent solution to a temporary problem'.
And if you feel like checking out:
DON'T call these freaks!
https://fromthetrenchesworldreport....d-for-8-minutes-as-a-teen-hung-himself/305762Condolences & Prayers.

 

[alank2]

Praying for you today saddlebum that you would be given wisdom and peace.

 

[PDS]

I think think you hit the nail on the head with that scripture. God’s will is in fact not done on earth automatically. Jesus said when you pray …..pray like this …. “hallowed be thy name, thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth at it is in heaven”. I wonder why Jesus would tell us to pray that Gods will be done on earth, it it was automatically done down here we would have not need to pray for it…..it really is that simple. We are the ones charged with doing the will of the Father (Those who doeth the will of the father shall enter the kingdom of heaven) God didn’t kill your loved ones folks we were warned about who has dominion down here. ….. Peter said …. Be sober, be vigilant for your adversary the devil walks about as a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour….. this is who you should be upset with for loss not ”I am”

God Bless. It is not for us to sit and hold our hands out as we pray and expect them to be filled ..whether it be praying for our finances or the good of our Country. My belief is God expects us to do our part and he will add to that blessings of answering prayers according to His will

 

[Lee Beaittie]

I, have friends that have lost loved ones to suicide, and by no means is it a subject to be taking lightly. If someone needs to talk I'll do my damnedest to help. You see, 14 yrs ago next month Sept 7th we lost our 19y/o son in a single person auto accident (discussed on a dif forum topic he was not wearing his seat belt), it was a very dark time for my beautiful wife and I. However one of the reasons that helped keep me from that dark action was that, The bible teaches us that ALL sins will be forgiven IF we confess to GOD, and accept him into our heart as our savior among other things, with that, you cannot ask for forgiveness before you've committed a sin and expect forgiveness and you cannot ask for forgiveness after you are gone. If you read this thank you for taking the time to do so, this is my personal view.

 

[osu007]

Praying for you today saddlebum that you would be given wisdom and peace.

Do you believe if a person ends their own life that precludes you from going to Heaven? in cases where people have intense suffering I wonder if God would hold it against them

Saddlebum. I just saw this post today. I don’t know the answer.. I prayed for you last night, and have been praying for you and others on here. As far as God holding it against you, I believe it is said, not scripture, but GOD LOVES THE SINNER, SIN. I have given you my sell number in the past, but I will pm it to you again. If you would like me to come to you I will, and be honored to do so. Peace be unto you. I can understand more than you know. I shall continue my prayers for you and your loved ones.

 

[osu007]

Saddlebum. I just saw this post today. I don’t know the answer.. I prayed for you last night, and have been praying for you and others on here. As far as God holding it against you, I believe it is said, not scripture, but GOD LOVES THE SINNER, SIN. I have given you my sell number in the past, but I will pm it to you again. If you would like me to come to you I will, and be honored to do so. Peace be unto you. I can understand more than you know. I shall continue my prayers for you and your loved ones.

I also will tell a condensed story. My step nephew’s daughter had internal problems. All kinds of x-rays and such and blood work. Cancerous tumor. Got 2 more opinions. Tumor getting larger, causing. Nephew is a minister in New Mexico. 2nd and 3rd opinions confirm, outlook is not good for survival. Surgery scheduled. Day of surgery, she was taken in for more x-rays and mri. No tumor found. Another round of x-rays and mri’s. No tumor found. Surgery postponed. All kinds of lab work ordered. Numbers came back in normal ranges. That was about 20 years ago. Praise God. There is nothing our God can’t do. He can stop this cancer, and that is my prayer. We must press in. Saddlebum, I’m here in BA if you need anything at all.