Federal judge says those accused of felonies still have Second Amendment rights

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I can't really find fault with his reasoning. If the appeals court upholds this it will have far reaching effects on states with red flag laws. Until a court has adjudicated you guilty of a felony or of an unsound mental state, your Constitutional rights remain. No more gun confiscation by the police based upon a simple accusation.
 

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Anyone so adjudicated as being guilty of a crime proving said person is a danger to be armed out in society needs to be kept locked up - if not executed - until it is proven in a court of law that said person is no longer a danger to society. A person released from prison or other institution, having completed the prescribed sentence, is the state declaring that person is no longer a threat to society and may exercise any and all rights.

I can't imagine a more logical rendition of justice for the safety of society and the sovereignty of a free person's rights.

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Anyone so adjudicated as being guilty of a crime proving said person is a danger to be armed out in society needs to be kept locked up - if not executed - until it is proven in a court of law that said person is no longer a danger to society. A person released from prison or other institution, having completed the prescribed sentence, is the state declaring that person is no longer a threat to society and may exercise any and all rights.

I can't imagine a more logical rendition of justice for the safety of society and the sovereignty of a free person's rights.

Woody
This right here deserves repeating.
 

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Folks, I really have mixed feelings about this topic. I have seen first hand the recidivism of former criminals. What has always been the law in reference to former felons voting and owning guns was OK with me. In my opinion, it was another deterrent to committing a crime in the first place. I know also no one thinks of such things while they go about their criminal life. Keeping guns out of their hands was a great tool law enforcement had on any future investigations.
 

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Folks, I really have mixed feelings about this topic. I have seen first hand the recidivism of former criminals. What has always been the law in reference to former felons voting and owning guns was OK with me. In my opinion, it was another deterrent to committing a crime in the first place. I know also no one thinks of such things while they go about their criminal life. Keeping guns out of their hands was a great tool law enforcement had on any future investigations.
I also have mixed feelings and am inclined to agree. My only question is, DOES it keep guns out of their hands?
 

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Folks, I really have mixed feelings about this topic. I have seen first hand the recidivism of former criminals. What has always been the law in reference to former felons voting and owning guns was OK with me. In my opinion, it was another deterrent to committing a crime in the first place. I know also no one thinks of such things while they go about their criminal life. Keeping guns out of their hands was a great tool law enforcement had on any future investigations.
I also have mixed feelings and am inclined to agree. My only question is, DOES it keep guns out of their hands?

Keeping violent criminals locked up negates the need for further investigations related to recidivism, and the only way to keep guns out of the hands of violent criminals is to keep those hands locked up with the criminals they are attached to.

Sentencing guidelines need to be established as a measure to protect society from criminals and not simply to punish. As far as deterrence goes, the law doesn't stop criminals in the first place.

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All felonies, regardless of whether violent or financial preclude firearm ownership? Don't have any fortunately, so can't say I pay attention much to the particulars on forms.
 

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I also have mixed feelings and am inclined to agree. My only question is, DOES it keep guns out of their hands?
My experience says NO, it does not keep guns out of the hands of criminals. The vast majority of felons could not possibly care less about the fact that they aren't supposed to have a gun and real hard core criminals don't vote anyway so losing that right is not a deterrent either. The only way to prevent career criminals from putting innocent civilians in harms way is to keep them locked up or execute them if the crime warrants capital punishment.
 

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