Stupid question - Does the BATFE send you back your trust paperwork with your form 4?

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So I may have lost my printed out copy (notarized, just like the one I sent in) of my trust paperwork. I'm digging around the house frantically, but

Problem is, I just had a pretty serious hard drive failure and the soft copy happened to be stored on there as well. I'm fairly certain that I need this to pick up the silencer that is currently waiting with Martin on the form 4 that should be approved shortly.

This is my first form 4 and I'm obviously newb'ing it up here, but is there any chance the BATFE is going to send back my trust paperwork?

If not, I guess I can either try and recover this drive with a little more zeal (I'm down to re-seating the logic board, or trying to find another Seagate like it and swap logic-boards, and after that, I guess I'll be sending it to Seagate for their recovery service I guess - no drive-recovery program has worked so far, it acts like a pretty clear hardware issue), or re-type the whole thing in Quicken will-maker and get it notarized again.

Are these basically my only options or is the BATFE going to save my newb behind here by surprising me with my copy waiting with my approved form 4?
 

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also curious.... i only had one copy notarized from the get go. Well that one copy is on the way to Martinsburg.... should i have another notarized?

and sorry not tyrin to hijack the thread
 

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NO. just send them a copy

ETA: Your original is one of a kind. I dont think you can just make another and re notarize. Then it goes pending I'd put a call into the examiner and plead with them to make me a copy
 

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No, the approved Form 4 is all you will get back.



So I may have lost my printed out copy (notarized, just like the one I sent in) of my trust paperwork. I'm digging around the house frantically, but

Problem is, I just had a pretty serious hard drive failure and the soft copy happened to be stored on there as well. I'm fairly certain that I need this to pick up the silencer that is currently waiting with Martin on the form 4 that should be approved shortly.

This is my first form 4 and I'm obviously newb'ing it up here, but is there any chance the BATFE is going to send back my trust paperwork?

If not, I guess I can either try and recover this drive with a little more zeal (I'm down to re-seating the logic board, or trying to find another Seagate like it and swap logic-boards, and after that, I guess I'll be sending it to Seagate for their recovery service I guess - no drive-recovery program has worked so far, it acts like a pretty clear hardware issue), or re-type the whole thing in Quicken will-maker and get it notarized again.

Are these basically my only options or is the BATFE going to save my newb behind here by surprising me with my copy waiting with my approved form 4?
 

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NO. just send them a copy

ETA: Your original is one of a kind. I dont think you can just make another and re notarize. Then it goes pending I'd put a call into the examiner and plead with them to make me a copy

Why do you think this? The trust paperwork isn't one of a kind as far as I can tell - there's nothing special about it other than what is printed in it and the notary's stamp.



I was under the impression that I had to send in a notarized copy of the trust paperwork to the BATFE, that's why I made two copies.

I guess I'll just try and find the other printed out copy a little harder for now - I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have thrown it out, so it should be here somewhere.

Thanks for the info.
 

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Why do you think this? The trust paperwork isn't one of a kind as far as I can tell - there's nothing special about it other than what is printed in it and the notary's stamp.



I was under the impression that I had to send in a notarized copy of the trust paperwork to the BATFE, that's why I made two copies.

I guess I'll just try and find the other printed out copy a little harder for now - I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have thrown it out, so it should be here somewhere.

Thanks for the info.


It is my understanding....... In Oklahoma,


The original trust document IS THE TRUST. You can copy it and Re-notarize it as a "notarized copy" Buy there is only one original. Think of it the same as a deed to your home. Surely there is something you can do to replace it but I'm pretty certain it is not just re-makeing it and starting over with a new Cert date and new Notarization.

The ATF just wants a copy But, if for some reason you need a notarized copy you would copy the original and have it notarized as a copy in ADDITION to the seal that is already on it

Sorry it does not make much sense. I could probable explain it better with words. For what it's worth. I've had my Notary for over 10 years.
 

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