U.N. Agreement Should Have All Gun Owners Up In Arms

Werewolf · Jun 9, 2011

Koshinn said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reid_v._Covert

Reid v. Covert, 354 U.S. 1 (1957), is a landmark case in which the United States Supreme Court ruled that the Constitution supersedes international treaties ratified by the United States Senate. According to the decision, "this Court has regularly and uniformly recognized the supremacy of the Constitution over a treaty," although the case itself was with regard to an executive agreement and the treaty has never been ruled unconstitutional.

Even if such a treaty were passed by 2/3 vote in the Senate, it would probably be unconstitutional and therefore invalid.

We hope.

But how much damage could an administration like the current one do until that determination was made by SCOTUS - which assumes they would indeed find it unconstitutional.

Once done, history shows undoing is difficult if not impossible.

Once the .gov gets power they don't ever, ever give it back.

Koshinn · Jun 9, 2011

Werewolf said:
We hope.

But how much damage could an administration like the current one do until that determination was made by SCOTUS - which assumes they would indeed find it unconstitutional.

Once done, history shows undoing is difficult if not impossible.

Once the .gov gets power they don't ever, ever give it back.

Not much. Getting a 2/3 vote isn't easy when the gop owns roughly half the votes.

And you bet the NRA would sue as soon as the law was passed and ask for an injunction, which would probably be granted.

DaveTec · Jun 10, 2011

Its just appeasment from Hillary. She's got her eye on that international position with the world bank afterall.....

It's got a snowball's chance in hell of passing.

Savage250 · Jun 13, 2011

What I can't understand is how come the Supreme Court has to rule on something that might be unconstitutional when the very constitution is what governs them all. They are sworn in to uphold the constitution from day one. It is written in plain English and is in Black ink. It says what it says. There is NO ROOM for interpretation of the document.

If it is ratified by 2/3 of the senate, they By-God better be ready for a Revolution that they have never imagined. You can only push a man so far, when he's past that point.....well, it's go time. The UN needs to leave this country, whether it be by force or their own free will. Either way, they need to De-A$$ this Nation.

Koshinn · Jun 13, 2011

Savage250 said:
There is NO ROOM for interpretation of the document.

That's the funniest thing I've read all day.

There is a LOT of room for interpretation in the constitution. It's vague at times and flat out ambiguous at others. The 2nd amendment itself has extremely ambiguous wording that was only recently (last couple of years) clarified by SCOTUS. It was clarified not by a careful reading, but by searching the history books and texts from that time to figure out the intent of the framers of the constitution. The "plain english" was and is a mess.

SCOTUS has to rule on constitutional issues because there are so many law making bodies in the country (federal congress, federal agencies, state legislatures, cities and counties, etc) that not all of them follow the constitution all the time. Is shouting "fire" in a crowded theater protected under the 1st amendment? Not anymore. Is it ok to own a human being as property? It was for a hundred and fifty years because some humans were not considered "people."

Erick · Jun 13, 2011

Want to sell all my guns.

$1.00 Each. PM me for details.

Edit: SPF
Edit: Sold Thanks!

LightningCrash · Jun 13, 2011

CHenry said:
Anyone else seen this?

http://blogs.forbes.com/larrybell/2011/06/07/u-n-agreement-should-have-all-gun-owners-up-in-arms/1/

Story is just a bunch of WILD speculation.

GlockedandLoaded · Jun 13, 2011

"We are no longer defined by our borders" Obama 2010
if they cut off our ability to buy food or send our kids to school the people will turn over their guns.

MoBoost · Jun 13, 2011

GlockedandLoaded said:
"We are no longer defined by our borders" Obama 2010
if they cut off our ability to buy food or send our kids to school the people will turn over their guns.

If they cut off our ability to buy food or send our kids to school the people will turn TO their guns

LightningCrash · Jun 13, 2011

MoBoost said:
If they cut off our ability to buy food or send our kids to school the people will turn TO their guns

When they implement an android army with laser cannons, our guns will not cling to religion.

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