HB2522: Open Carry

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So, what are the chances that the psychotic abortion language torpedoes the bill? Did that mess get taken out today?
 

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Here's the "show me your papers" bit. I don't like it but here it is.

"SECTION . * * AMENDATORY * * 21 O.S. 2011, Section 1290.8, is amended to read as follows:
Section 1290.8 *
POSSESSION OF LICENSE REQUIRED -
NOTIFICATION TO POLICE OF GUN
A. *Except as otherwise prohibited by law, an eligible person shall have authority to carry a concealed or unconcealed handgun in this state when the person has been issued a handgun license from the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation pursuant to the provisions of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act, provided the person is in compliance with the provisions of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act, and the license has not expired or been subsequently suspended or revoked. *A person in possession of a valid handgun license and in compliance with the provisions of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act shall be authorized to carry such concealed or unconcealed handgun while bow hunting or fishing.
B. *The person shall be required to have possession of his or her valid handgun license and a valid Oklahoma driver license or an Oklahoma State photo identification at all times when in possession of an authorized pistol. *The person shall display the handgun license on demand of a law enforcement officer; provided, however, that in the absence of reasonable and articulable suspicion of other criminal activity, an individual openly carrying a handgun shall not be disarmed or physically restrained unless the individual fails to display a valid handgun license in response to that demand. *Any violation of the provisions of this subsection may be punishable as a criminal offense as authorized by Section 1272 of this title or pursuant to any other applicable provision of law. *In addition to any criminal prosecution which may result from not carrying the handgun license and the required identification with the authorized pistol as required by the provisions of this subsection, the person may be subject to an administrative fine for violation of the provisions of this subsection. *The administrative fine shall be Fifty Dollars ($50.00) and shall be assessed by the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation after a hearing and determination that the licensee is in violation of the provisions of this subsection. *Any second or subsequent violation of the provisions of this subsection shall be grounds for the Bureau to suspend the handgun license for a period of six (6) months, in addition to any other penalty imposed.
Upon the arrest of any person for a violation of the provisions of this subsection, the person may show proof to the court that a valid handgun license and the other required identification has been issued to such person and the person may state any reason why the handgun license or the other required identification was not carried by the person as required by the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act. *The court shall dismiss an alleged violation of Section 1272 of this title upon payment of court costs, if proof of a valid handgun license and other required identification is shown to the court within ten (10) days of the arrest of the person. *The court shall report a dismissal of a charge to the Bureau for consideration of administrative proceedings against the licensee.
C. *It shall be unlawful for any person to fail or refuse to identify the fact that the person is in actual possession of a concealed or unconcealed handgun pursuant to the authority of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act when the person first comes into contact with any law enforcement officer of this state or its political subdivisions or a federal law enforcement officer during the course of any arrest, detainment, or routine traffic stop. *Said identification to the law enforcement officer shall be made at the first opportunity. *No person shall be required to identify himself or herself as a concealed handgun licensee when no handgun is in the person’s possession of the person or in any vehicle in which the person is driving or is a passenger. *Any violation of the provisions of this subsection shall, upon conviction, be a misdemeanor punishable by a fine not exceeding One Hundred Dollars ($100.00)."
D. *Any law enforcement officer coming in contact with a person whose handgun license is suspended, revoked, or expired, or who is in possession of a handgun license which has not been lawfully issued to that person, shall confiscate the license and return it to the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation for appropriate administrative proceedings against the licensee when the license is no longer needed as evidence in any criminal proceeding.
E. *Nothing in this section shall be construed to authorize a law enforcement officer to inspect any weapon properly concealed or unconcealed without probable cause that a crime has been committed.
 

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I just glanced over that language but it seems totally reasonable to me. I really hope it passes.

That language is the same as the original version of hb2522, which was fine. The stuff that sucked was treat/russel's language that struck the entire body of the bil and replaced it with crap because they are petty. But it seems they have changed it back.

Perhaps the whole Treat/Russel thing was only a childish stunt, either way they are pathetic.
 

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Is Sen. Wilson high? I mean, seriously--has anybody read the text of his amendment to HB 2522? Let me fill you in:

Take whatever position you want on abortion--seriously, I'm not getting into that here--but does he seriously mean to hold a fetus criminally responsible for the death of its mother if she can't abort?

I just checked and Wilson is one of the only two people in the senate still voting against the bill so yeah it was only to drag the bill down.
 

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So, what are the chances that the psychotic abortion language torpedoes the bill? Did that mess get taken out today?

The Wilson ammenent changed language in section 1289.25, but there is no mention of section 1289.25 in the current bill. The bill stops at 1289.24 and then jumps to 1290. So as I understand it the Wilson amendment is NOt in the current bill.
 

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