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So government benefits are rights? That's a slippery slope, but close. Benefits should be applied fairly and equally, but redefining marriage won't do that, it will just let a small group of people into the club while still excluding others.

Exactly, I am all for removing any monetary benefits the sanctity of marriage allows.
 

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So government benefits are rights? That's a slippery slope, but close. Benefits should be applied fairly and equally, but redefining marriage won't do that, it will just let a small group of people into the club while still excluding others.

Benefits should be equally applied, all right. How about zero. No EBT, no housing assistance, no WIC. If I procreate, it's my responsibility. If a chick gives birth, baby daddy ain't willing to take responsibility, then she has a tough deal. Lesson for those that follow.

Perhaps living with our choices may be tough, but it might make us choose better after a generation dies off.
 

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Ted:

No one is ever going to do that. no political will and a very real fear of the consequences.

Face it guys, it's over. It died right in front of us.

JB: I know it did. But for those that express belief in "freedom from government", I like to point out that it requires a responsibility that we, as a nation are not willing to accept.

When folks were busy railing against Obamacare, shouting "No Socialized Medicine", I liked to point out that Medicare is socialized medicine...but, but.....
 

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Benefits should be equally applied, all right. How about zero. No EBT, no housing assistance, no WIC. If I procreate, it's my responsibility. If a chick gives birth, baby daddy ain't willing to take responsibility, then she has a tough deal. Lesson for those that follow.

Perhaps living with our choices may be tough, but it might make us choose better after a generation dies off.

None of those are marriage benefits.
 

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JB: I know it did. But for those that express belief in "freedom from government", I like to point out that it requires a responsibility that we, as a nation are not willing to accept.

When folks were busy railing against Obamacare, shouting "No Socialized Medicine", I liked to point out that Medicare is socialized medicine...but, but.....

We are a nation of talkers now, not doers.
 

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Well said!!!

I should note that I am highly amused by all the GOP is dead BS. It has been said over and over again about both main parties, and both still win elections. The party holding the WH still changes mostly every 8 years unless whom ever holding it is a total screwup, then it changes after 4. It will continue that way until a strong enough 3rd party forces a change.

I will differ on changing the way you say. Based on demographics ( unless they change things like illegal immigration and birthright citizenship) more and more liberals will be elected unless people wake up.
 

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I will differ on changing the way you say. Based on demographics ( unless they change things like illegal immigration and birthright citizenship) more and more liberals will be elected unless people wake up.

And yet the GOP holds more states then it has in many decades.
 

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Until WE as citizens as a whole, hold the pieces of manure that we send to hill accountable for our wishes as voters. Things will just stay the same. The planning. And plotting against us will continue. The creation of laws to use against us will continue. And also excluding themselves from such laws. When we have votors who care more about a skin color than a record. Or lack of. When we have votors who care more about his looks... Than how bad he screwed Arkansas. Maybe a no job-no vote. Excluding the retired.

Yes the politicians (most are)are just pathetic as the idiots who voted them in.
 

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