Introed the #1 son to AR goodness this weekend

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Never for me. I did shoot a 16 inch barrel I used to have to the point of not cycling using steel cased ammo. Probably was the 1,000th round. It is a little dirtier to shoot, but the gun was a filthy mess to start. Cleaned it, no problems. The steel used in the cases is MUCH softer than the steel in your barrel or bolt. The only down side I see is if you are a reloader, you get no brass, you can't shoot it at H&H, and it is not match grade by any means. Good enough for cans, paper, or anything that needs a hole in it.

I had some a few years back, maybe Silver Bear? Anyway, what ever it was the coating was pretty generously applied, so I gave each round a scrubbing twist on the projectile end before I stuck them in the magazines. It was only a few hundred rounds. Something to do in front of the TV. It was just a couple of bucks a box then.
 

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That may be the best steel vs. brass article that I have ever read!

Here is my math: 10,000 rounds of Federal XM193 if you bought it at Academy is $4995. Ad tax, and that's $5434.31.

10,000 rounds of Tula $2995(it's what is on the shelf at Academy right now, and although it the carbine used to test it failed, it was not the ammo. the remainder of the 10,000 rounds tested were fired in two other rifles with a total of 6 malfunctions)

After tax that is $3258.41. Now ad an average barrel (How about a cold hammer forged from Spikes?) $290. Ad $20 for shipping. That's $3568.41. Even if you bought two barrels, it is only $3878.41.

That is a difference of $1555.90, if I got TWO barrels.

For $1555.90, and considering I have about $575 in my basic AR, I could almost have THREE MORE RIFLES, or two more with change, or one pricey one, or gas, or a few house payments, etc, etc, etc.....
 

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That may be the best steel vs. brass article that I have ever read!

Here is my math: 10,000 rounds of Federal XM193 if you bought it at Academy is $4995. Ad tax, and that's $5434.31.

10,000 rounds of Tula $2995(it's what is on the shelf at Academy right now, and although it the carbine used to test it failed, it was not the ammo. the remainder of the 10,000 rounds tested were fired in two other rifles with a total of 6 malfunctions)

After tax that is $3258.41. Now ad an average barrel (How about a cold hammer forged from Spikes?) $290. Ad $20 for shipping. That's $3568.41. Even if you bought two barrels, it is only $3878.41.

That is a difference of $1555.90, if I got TWO barrels.

For $1555.90, and considering I have about $575 in my basic AR, I could almost have THREE MORE RIFLES, or two more with change, or one pricey one, or gas, or a few house payments, etc, etc, etc.....

my head hurts...LOL
 

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Ah...good old Happy Hollow. Good to see your son getting into shooting. Hope he stays interested in firearms for years to come.

I've burned quite a bit of steel cased ammo in my AR's and it's always worked OK. It's usually not quite as accurate and is dirty, but if it works and keeps us shooting it's probably a good thing. The bi-metal jackets on the bullets are harder on a barrel but for the cost difference, you can buy a new barrel and the tools change it and still be money ahead.
 

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