Carly Fiorina For Pres. How do you feel?

Coded-Dude · Apr 21, 2015

My biggest concern with her business experience is that she trimmed the fat on the bottom(hard working employees) for the sake of the company while maintaining or extending luxuries at the upper end(executives). That is the political elite's favorite thing to do these days.....their success at our expense.

CHenry · Apr 21, 2015

Coded-Dude said:
My biggest concern with her business experience is that she trimmed the fat on the bottom(hard working employees) for the sake of the company while maintaining or extending luxuries at the upper end(executives). That is the political elite's favorite thing to do these days.....their success at our expense.

If it was in fact fat, it needed trimmed regardless where it was at right?

aeropb · Apr 21, 2015

choose someone we've never heard of plz

Coded-Dude · Apr 21, 2015

There was certainly fat that needed to the trimmed, but the way it was done was reckless and ass backwards. The people that should have been let go stayed while good employees(actual contributors) were let go(I had more managers than co-workers). Forced early retirement, tens of thousands of layoffs, pay hike freezes for 5+ years, off shoring services and jobs......to the point where services and support being offered by HP couldn't be fulfilled and morale was in the toilet("do what we tell you or get replaced by someone cheaper who will"). The board fired her(mostly because of stagnating stock prices), but the executives did very well during the entire time(as is common in these types of massive company shifts). Bill and Dave were rolling over in their graves I'm sure(those guys knew how to take care of their employees, as the old timers would tell it). Basically, there was little to no fat trimmed at the executive level. It was far more about the bottom dollar(or rather the "top's dollars") than making the company more efficient, as it became unbearably inefficient.

TerryMiller · Apr 21, 2015

Yeppers to Coded-Dude. My wife was in IT as a division manager/director when she retired last June. She has stated a number of times that Fiorina's "executive experience" is very lacking. While Fiorina may say the right things, I keep remembering that Marco Rubio did the same before being elected to the Senate, but he fell under the spell of the moderate Republicans in the Senate and flipped on immigration.

SoonerP226 · Apr 21, 2015

71buickfreak said:
And her replacement, Mark Hurd, was far worse.

Mark Hurd wasn't "far worse," he just got cross-wise with the Board. Larry Ellison is no fool (at least when it comes to business), and he immediately hired Hurd to be co-CEO of Oracle.

Fiorina's big deal as HP CEO was the HP-Compaq merger, which was widely seen as an...interesting...move at the time. It was certainly not praised then, and still isn't; about the only decent thing HP got out of the deal was the Class A IPv4 block that Compaq had acquired when it bough DEC...

Politically, I do like the fact that she has no problem whatsoever letting the Hildebeest have it with both barrels, but I don't know enough about Carly to evaluate her as a Presidential candidate. She ran as a Republican in Khaleefohneeyah, but that could easily translate to "liberal Democrat" in Oklahoma or Texas. She has published positions, of course, but she has no record to tell us what she would actually do--we could wind up with a conservative or just another RINO.

Coded-Dude · Apr 21, 2015

Hurd did great running ProCurve. Although some office affairs got him into trouble.

The best thing about the Compaq merger was that HP was able to relocate their headquarters to Houston and get away from the CA business taxes.

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71buickfreak · Apr 21, 2015

I am just looking for something other than the usual suspects. Paul, ryan, rudio, Christie, bush, all more of the same.

LightningCrash · Apr 21, 2015

71buickfreak said:
What the detractors say is that under Fiorina, HP saw a 50-percent decline in value, but what they don't tell you is that the devaluation came during the tech bubble, when all tech companies saw massive devaluations, you can't pin that all on her. And her replacement, Mark Hurd, was far worse. Also considered one of the "worst CEOs"- Meg Whitman, the woman who masterminded EBay's rise to dominance in the online resale marketplace. So, yeah take that worst CEO crap with a huge grain of salt.

Dell and IBM stock did much better than HP. Of course they weren't run by a crappy CEO. Take that "it was the tech bubble" crap with a huge grain of salt.

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