A Thank you to all that I have dealt with on here.

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Shoot Summ

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Yeah, I get that people are acting like assholes. But people are leaving both sites. People who were decent contributors, whiny or not.

It'll come down to me waiting this drama out. I've been here too many years and have seen it too many times. Then, I'll go where the people go. If they ever decide. I'll go to the forum that has the most content I like. Right now, out of like half a dozen, it's 0 of them because everybody is spread out like a whore on nickle night. If a forum ever develops halfway decently, I'll be on that one. Even if that makes me a whiner. I'd rather do that than talk to myself.

What people can't seem to realize, is that they can choose to engage, or choose to leave something alone. I do it all the time, I see crap that bugs me, but realize I am not going to change the way someone thinks, so I leave it alone. It's really pretty easy once you learn how to do it, but some folks just can't.

For some reason though, I still can't leave long fairwells alone... :hot: :sorry4::oops3:
 

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What people can't seem to realize, is that they can choose to engage, or choose to leave something alone. I do it all the time, I see crap that bugs me, but realize I am not going to change the way someone thinks, so I leave it alone. It's really pretty easy once you learn how to do it, but some folks just can't.

For some reason though, I still can't leave long fairwells alone... :hot: :sorry4::oops3:

Lmao!
 

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So what's happening with the Christian forum for us delicate snowflakes? Is it supposed to happen here or on the other site? Sh00ter and I need somewhere to continue our vaccination argument.
 

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I agree that it could have been handled better, but they honestly didn't give it a chance. They really didn't. I got OKF about a week ago. Immediately, the bitching and insulting started. People made up their minds to be angry and had absolutely no interest in anything other than bitching. How does one deal with that? How do you reason with folks who just don't care to even listen?
I wish I could tell you how to fix it, but I just don't know. I thought your responses were intended to be humorous, and I do believe that your intentions were honorable, but I don't think some of them saw it that way. Part of the problem is that a bunch of them were already disaffected, which colored their point of view from the get-go.

The best example I can think of to explain it is like this. Years ago, I knew someone (we'll call him Bill) who'd had big problems with a big car dealer (I forget the name, so we'll call the dealer Alan Smithee) over a lemon that he bought there. He never met the guy whose name was on the dealership, only a couple of sales managers, but the whole mess ended up in court, and was an entirely Not Fun experience. So for his next car, Bill does a bunch of research and finds the exact car he wants at a dealership in Tulsa, so he goes up there to buy it. As he's getting ready to make the final deal, this dude walks up, smiles, sticks out his hand and says, "hey there, glad to meet you. I just bought this dealership--my name is Alan Smithee!"

It didn't matter that this was Bill's dream car, or that Alan Smithee was a big-time 2A supporter, a deacon in his church, and ran a no-kill animal shelter, or that Smithee never directly did anything bad to Bill--or even that Alan Smithee had figured out that there were problems in his dealership that he had promised to fix. All Bill could see was that he had a really bad experience with Alan Smithee's other dealership, and now he was dealing with the same guy again, so it just soured the whole experience and he ended up walking on the deal.

Obviously, it's not a perfect analogy, and there are some artistic embellishments to make the point (f'rinstance, I don't know that Smithee was a decent guy at all, though I'm pretty sure you are), but I'm hoping everyone can see the point here--there are good and honorable people on both sides if this deal, but they just don't see eye to eye. Maybe it'll all work out in the end (I hope so), but for now, it's just too raw for some.
 

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I really don't get all the "long goodbyes". They seem like a cry for attention to me, and I'm sure many others here.
 

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