Ok, what's the point of a 5" flash hider?

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tRidiot

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Just curious... saw one in the Classifieds.

If you're building an upper, and you don't wanna do a pistol (which I don't care for), or go to the trouble of an SBR, what exactly is the point of a short barrel (like a 10.5") with a long flash hider? Like a 5.5" or something? I guess I DO understand the 14.5" + 1.5" pinned and welded - to get to just at the legal limit. If I put a 16" barrel and a 1.5-2" flash hider, I'm extending beyond where I am required to, yes.


But... if you use a 5" flash hider, you're not saving any on length, you've got a bunch of non-barrel length with no rifling, you're losing (potential) velocity, you're still at an overall 16" length... so what's the point? I mean, IS there any difference between say 10.5 + 5.5 and 14.5 + 1.5? Or is it just a matter of doing it differently without any real effect on performance? DOES it affect performance? I'd guess with 5" less rifling (than a regular 16" barrel), you might lose a couple hundred FPS, perhaps, but to most of us, that isn't a big deal... I don't think anyone's building a 10.5" barreled upper with a 5" flash hider trying to shoot out to 800 yards.

I'm just curious.
 

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Some folks are trying to replicate the old XM177E2 look. On the XM, the 4.5" muzzle device is actually a "sound moderator". It only reduced the sound about 2dB, so that the carbine sounded like the rifle. It also kept some gas pressure in the barrel to improve cycling.

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car15.jpgIt's for the looks.
Some guys like to rebuild some of the older classic rifles from Vietnam.
I may have my barrel length off, but I think some of the shorter m16's were 10.5" barrels with the 5.5" flash hider
 

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View attachment 49114It's for the looks.
Some guys like to rebuild some of the older classic rifles from Vietnam.
I may have my barrel length off, but I think some of the shorter m16's were 10.5" barrels with the 5.5" flash hider

the XM177 and XM177E1 had 10.0" barrels. The XM177E2 had an 11.5" barrel. The Moderators on all 3 were 4.5".

The 5.5" flash hiders of today are simply a civilian copy of the Moderators (without the internal baffles) that are longer so as to bring an 11.5" barrel up to 16" (the threads overlap 0.5").
 

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View attachment 49114It's for the looks.
Some guys like to rebuild some of the older classic rifles from Vietnam.
I may have my barrel length off, but I think some of the shorter m16's were 10.5" barrels with the 5.5" flash hider

That's what I was building before I gave up on it. Haven't decided yet if I want to sell all the parts or try again later.
 

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