Vietnam UH-1 helicopter pilot poser outed

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Gabriel42

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Was Lurker over the top in the way he approached it, God yes! But, does that make a difference to the substance and discrepancies that were originally posted across multiple forums?

If there is no substance to the claims and his statements were factually accurate then it isn't a big deal to say that. If they aren't factually accurate but were as innocuous as some claim than it really shouldn't be an issue for DH to explain his misremembering.

As long as it remains "cleared up privately", it reeks of political cover-ups and this will continue be a thing for some*. It's just the way it is.

As a current member of the US Armed Forces, I am dubious about the situation and will continue to be so as I feel that those that embellish their actual service are worse than those that never actually served or made it out of initial training because those who actually served in a meaningful capacity should be proud of whatever service they provided to their country or the people of other countries and making false statements in a way diminishes the contributions made by those that served beside you and is dishonorable.

*Actual service members are more likely to be believed by those that didn't serve and sound more convincing in their lies because those that didn't serve are morel likely pre-disposed to believe they are trustworthy and the member will be less likely tripped up over details pertaining to service as they actually lived it.
 

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If someone lies, they deserve to get their noodle kicked.

For example, Lurker made some crap up about Walmart meat and a shopping cart here one day. We busted his nuts good that day. No one called us disciples or 'losertown' or whatever childish names that day.

However, Lurker came clean and everyone moved on. He's a great dude, and lots of people think so.

I have no agenda, frankly don't care about all the butthurt, and hardly even come here anymore like most people.

But I do not understand the logic behind covering for someone who chronically misrepresents their military service and chalks it up to 'misremembering things'. I mean, don't insult me, please.

Friends need to remember that 'tough love' is love too. If someone calls you out for getting it twisted, sack up, admit what needs to be admitted, and everyone moves on to happier days.
 

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If someone lies, they deserve to get their noodle kicked.

For example, Lurker made some crap up about Walmart meat and a shopping cart here one day. We busted his nuts good that day. No one called us disciples or 'losertown' or whatever childish names that day.

However, Lurker came clean and everyone moved on. He's a great dude, and lots of people think so.

I have no agenda, frankly don't care about all the butthurt, and hardly even come here anymore like most people.

But I do not understand the logic behind covering for someone who chronically misrepresents their military service and chalks it up to 'misremembering things'. I mean, don't insult me, please.

Friends need to remember that 'tough love' is love too. If someone calls you out for getting it twisted, sack up, admit what needs to be admitted, and everyone moves on to happier days.

I say "losertown" because I can't say "bartertown" and my only representation of it is people who claim to "not care" and "I don't come to OSA anymore" but yet continually come back and try and stir things up and hassle DH over a past wrong.

And apparently there was a lot more to the whole issue than I read / was posted here. Doesn't change much. It's the internet, no one MUST "come clean".

Oh, and "great dudes" don't stalk and harass people, regardless of the wrong.
 

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I say "losertown" because I can't say "bartertown" and my only representation of it is people who claim to "not care" and "I don't come to OSA anymore" but yet continually come back and try and stir things up and hassle DH over a past wrong.

And apparently there was a lot more to the whole issue than I read / was posted here. Doesn't change much. It's the internet, no one MUST "come clean".

Oh, and "great dudes" don't stalk and harass people, regardless of the wrong.

So lying is okay, but only if it's on the internet. Got it.

I have no problem with you, and you've been a mod here a long, long time. And a good one, IMO. But you're reading this situation all wrong and bringing strawmen into it to justify yourself.

But until you unhitch yourself from a bad beat, expect people to be upset. Even if it's only the internet.
 

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As a mod, you typically participate in every thread on the forum. Either by monitoring or posting. There was a mistake in asking posters to quit posting personal attacks in the trump thread by me in farmerbyrons post. It was corrected the next morning by pointing out that post asking members to keep on the topic and quit the personal attacks was NOT directed at farmerbyron in any way shape or form. The discussion was not being stifled. What was being moderated was the personal attacks against any of the trump supporters by the anti trumpers. They could not stay on the candidate, which is fair game, but went after the poster personally.
that's called moderating a thread, following the forum rules which I can post if you want.
Earlier in that same thread a forum member accused another forum member, twice, of being a paid internet troll.
A personal attack that you ignored and overlooked because of your own emotional investment in the topic of the thread.
 

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Jeebus...can we please move on? This is old ****, if you don't accept DH's saying it was cleared up, or like him as as a Mod; or O-Steve saying he was satisfied at DH's explanation, then go on down the road or something, wouldja? And oh...
 

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Earlier in that same thread a forum member accused another forum member, twice, of being a paid internet troll.
A personal attack that you ignored and overlooked because of your own emotional investment in the topic of the thread.
It was not overlooked. The request to stop personal attacks said from both sides of the discussion.....did it not?
 

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