FireStarter. New way to carry glycerine

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I know it has been discussed on some other threads, sort of, but....

This is an update on starting fire with potassium permanganate and glycerine..

there have been several threads over time about starting fire with potassium permanganate and glycerine and potassium permanganate and antifreeze.

Works quite well and burns very, very hot.
Hint: If you try this, do it out doors. The fumes are pretty gnarly.

Anyway, one of the things that has always gotten me about this technique is the transport of glycerine and/or antifreeze.

Obviously, the idea of using antifreeze is that you can get some out of your radiator if you are in a survival situation.

Glycerine in your back pack/bug out bag is another story.

Admittedly, a small bottle only weighs 6 ounces, but I got to wondering about it.

The other day, I'm standing in the Pharmacy section and for whatever reason, glycerine suppositories popped into my head. So I thought, hey are they really glycerine or just partially. Could they be mixed with potassium permanganate and work?

Turns out, I found two types. The actually solid suppository and one with actual glycerine liquid in a sealed tube.

The solid suppository does work, but it takes a while for the reaction to happen. Plus, you still have a small jar to carry with you.

The liquid ones worked like a charm. Pop the cap, pour on the potassium permanganate and you get fire!!!

So, anyway. Just thought I'd pass this on to anyone looking to update their BOB.

Dave
 

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I ordered some a few years back and shared with some of the folks on here. Handle it carefully as it leaves a very prominent purple stain on your skin and clothes. And good on the suppositories Dave.. Thanks
 

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So, let me get a better understanding about this. All one has to do it buy the Potassium Pomegranate, pour some antifreeze on it, and a fire develops? What proportion do your mix it? Do your need a source of ignition or does it auto ignite?

On one of Dave's links they posted this:
"Fire Starting: 1 part sugar, 2 parts potassium permanganate, grind into a thin powder and it will light with a spark from a ferrocerium rod (fire steel). You can also mix it with Glycerin and other chemicals to start fires."
 

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Yes,

Mix Potassium permanganate and antifreeze for this:




Mix potassium permananate and glycerine for this:




I don't have a real recipe on the amount of each. I just play around with it and mix it together to get a thick paste.

One of the solid Glycerine suppositories in a bed of Potassium permanganate will take a bit of time, but it does ignite.

The ignition is MUCH quicker with one of the liquid vial suppositories.

You can also use brake fluid instead of antifreeze, glycerine or suppositories.
I'm sure that there are other things you can use also.

WARNINGS:

There is A LOT of smoke with this reaction and it does not smell good.

If you are going to do this, do it outdoors. And be prepared to put out the fire and smoldering remnants.

DO NOT get any of the mix on your hands or clothes. You will find out just how HOT this reaction is even if you think there is nothing to worry about.
Even just a LITTLE of this mix on your skin really, really burns.
Don't ask me how I know!!!

Dave
 

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Thanks for the video's Dave. Very interesting. I go into the high country on elk hunts in New Mexico annually at the 10,000' level sometimes by myself. Fire starting at altitude has always been a concern. This looks promising.
 

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