Your right you can use a rifle buffer tube. This has been cussed, discussed and debated on AR15.com. Personally I wouldn't as it could get iffy with an ATF agent who doesn't really know the regs. If I did use one I would do a permanent mod to it so it couldn't accept a stock.
Just a rant here.
Ya know, wouldn't life be easier if a lower was a lower and you added parts to it to make a firearm. Rifle, pistol, pocket pistol, your choice, or changed it around next week if you liked, so what difference does it really make in any way? In any configuration it would just another firearm that goes bang and something goes out the other end when the trigger is pulled.
Whether any firearm is USED legally or USED illegally to affect someone elses life or environment should be the only question.
Yep, kinda fed up with the Gvmt messing with regulating things like what kind of light bulbs I can use. I am the one that pays for the electric flowing through them. I should be allowed to decide what works for me while sitting at my computer desk without their legislation BS.
Ya know, wouldn't life be easier if a lower was a lower and you added parts to it to make a firearm. Rifle, pistol, pocket pistol, your choice, or changed it around next week if you liked, so what difference does it really make in any way? In any configuration it would just another firearm that goes bang and something goes out the other end when the trigger is pulled.
Whether any firearm is USED legally or USED illegally to affect someone elses life or environment should be the only question.
Yep, kinda fed up with the Gvmt messing with regulating things like what kind of light bulbs I can use. I am the one that pays for the electric flowing through them. I should be allowed to decide what works for me while sitting at my computer desk without their legislation BS.
I wouldn't do it either as I've had conversions with LEO before regarding firearm laws and they had no idea what the law actually was. Plus, a pistol buffer is inexpensive and easy to get ahold of, so there really isn't a reason to use one. At one point, there was an ATF letter clarifying this. I couldn't find it, but I want to say that it was sent out around 2010.
I don't do the AR thing but after reading all of this Im intrigued at the notion of extreme honesty you all seem to practice. If you have a lower listed as other or bought a bare lower and don't know its origin. What would it really matter how you built it? Just build it and keep it that way. Or rebuild it and keep it the new way. Frankly who would know? Who would you tell? And why make anything public. If you built the AR and it was stolen. Who could prove it wasnt modified by a boogy man prior to use in a drive by?
Nobody wants a felony, and subsequent loss of gun rights.
I like to think I'm an honest person. I try to be upfront and honest in my dealings, and I try to follow the law to the best of my ability. Even when I don't agree with them. I do go slightly higher than the speed limit, usually about 4mph. I'm no saint, and have certainly made more than my share of mistakes - but I am trying to be a better example for my son. I am trying to teach him to be a better man than I have been or am. Hence, when it comes to hunting, I am a stickler for the rules - have your tags in advance, don't shoot outside of daylight hours, etc.
As far as my guns, I try to everything scrupulously honestly and within the letter of the law, as far as I can, and as far as I know.
When you mix the fear some mentioned in this thread. that the ATF agents or cops don't know enough about the correct interpretation of the law. That the cops will hassle you and give you grief when it isn't warranted. Its is more than somewhat of a concern that the actual rules are either not understood here. Or that they are actually so ambiguous, possibly purposly, that your goose is cooked no matter what you do. Im just glad I don't play with EArs so no issues here.
I didn't intend to make it sound like anyone should break the law. It just sounds like the law is very misunderstood.
I didn't intend to make it sound like anyone should break the law. It just sounds like the law is very misunderstood.
Unfortunately it seems most laws are written in "Lawyer English" and ambiguous as possible for the average citizen to know perfectly clear what their intent might be.
Intentionally so.
I would say that it is no more so than any Glock with a rail. You can add stocks to Glocks just by snapping it into the rear grip cavity, or put a fore grip on the rail.
We live in a society of blurred lines, so trying to define things into strict categories is mind boggling at best.
It's like cars, there used to be cars and trucks. Then we had minivans and SUVs show up, and now there is no distinguishable line.
I imagine when they set the 16" & 18" limits, they (nor the public) didn't think there was any reason for the "average" person to want a barrel for a rifle or shotgun caliber to be less than that.
This I agree with 100%
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