ain't that the truth. You'll never find a perfect person and the people who demand such are ridiculous. But i also disagree that there aren't things that can be addressed and changed.
Here we go - Tulsa public schools to start review of school names..
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ain't that the truth. You'll never find a perfect person and the people who demand such are ridiculous. But i also disagree that there aren't things that can be addressed and changed.
I quickly edited that to say "some" instead of "they" ... but apparently you were quicker than I was.
I quickly edited that to say "some" instead of "they" ... but apparently you were quicker than I was.
ha! certainly wasn't my intention. I had my post written and then had a 'wait a second' moment and had to google it. I wouldn't have been surprised if he had to be honest, but my personal issue is less with people who were a product of their time (and owned slaves) and those that want to honor people who were leaders of a failed rebellion.
I just don't buy the 'just and holy cause' story that a lot of southerns want to spin about the civil war.
Nor do I. But the names and statues are part of our heritage and history IMO, especially those that have been in place for a century or more. Our country is fairly young after all.
Renaming schools and teams simply annoys me, because it's mostly just kowtowing to the PC crowd (again IMO).
This is what happens when schools teach that the civil war was only about slavery.
Nor do I. But the names and statues are part of our heritage and history IMO, especially those that have been in place for a century or more. Our country is fairly young after all.
Renaming schools and teams simply annoys me, because it's mostly just kowtowing to the PC crowd (again IMO).
i certainly agree, but some of these statues weren't put in place until the 1920s, and then only as a reaction to reconstruction and other integration-related issues. As i've said, monuments to those who lost their lives is one thing. Honoring those that led the rebellion is another. Especially when those people don't actually have a connection to the places erecting the monuments. I believe one literally says something about white supremacy.
they aren't there to commemorate the civil war. they were put there to perpetuate the myth of the lost cause.
You mean a war where Americans fought and died for the cause of states rights? Fighting for the very principles the founders envisioned for this new Republic. There's no spin there.
The civil war had very little to do with slavery until Lincoln made it about slavery to keep England from supplying the south and possibly even providing troops.
From the second paragraph of the Mississippi articles of secession "Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world."
Slavery was a complicated issue that covered a lot of ground. But it was a key issue as it related to the southern economy and lifestyle none the less.
https://www.civilwar.org/learn/primary-sources/declaration-causes-seceding-states#Mississippi
Not all the founders believed in slavery. Not all of them wanted it to continue. I don't think romanticising the ugly truths about the civil war helps. It wasn't a just or holy caus. No matter what they carved in stone.
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But my public school text book only talked about slavery being the reason for the war between states.
My daughter is a teacher at Broadmoore Elementary. That sounds a little sexist! It must be changed!
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