How do you go about discouraging someone from getting a gun/permit?

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deerwhacker444

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Neighbor lady. Older, not elderly (late 60s), but very much a frail, poorly active older lady. Yesterday she was asking me about small automatics (she doesn't want a revolver), like "what's the smallest gun they make that's like a Glock?"

I had no idea what she was talking about, but after a bit, I realized she was saying she wanted something that was a semi-auto, not a revolver. Then she was asking how much the class costs, etc.

Problem is, I don't think she needs a gun. She does NOT have the mentality to use it, won't train or practice with it, it'll probably go in a drawer and never come out. God forbid she keeps it in her purse, I don't even want to think about her carrying.

This is a woman who won't do a damned thing for herself, constantly is trying to get everyone else to do EVERYTHING for her, I mean... seriously, I do not want to be responsible for helping her get a gun. Noway, nohow.

I think if I just ignore it and act uninterested, she will forget about it or let it drop. She always wants to get whatever it is we have - she had to get a fancy phone, which she always screws up and wants me to fix. Same with her internet setup, router, television and home theater setup (constantly having to fix that, too), kitchen appliances she never uses - she just wants to feel like she's keeping up. I don't want anything to do with it.

Any suggestions on how to discourage her if she brings this up again?
My Ma sorta falls into this category. A few years back a bunch of her women friends at church decided that they needed to carry, so as birds of a feather do, she decided that she needed to carry. I thought it was a bad idea at best, but who was I to limit her rights.

So she took the class, got the permit, bought herself a S&W 649, went to the range a couple of times and put her pistol on a shelf in the closet. And there it has sat for almost 2 years. She never carried it anywhere, hasn't practiced with it in almost 2 years.

The "new" wore off and the issue pretty much fixed itself. I suspect your neighbor's problem would turn out the same way..
 

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Understood. But it'll end up that I will need to "find someone" who can help her, and then also continual questions for me about how her gun works, she can't rack the slide, she can't figure it out, etc. It really is exhausting - this is a woman who constantly calls my wife or our other neighbor to come over to help her zip/unzip her dress or blouse, fasten or unfasten her bra, or put her earrings in. Seriously. It's that bad.
simple solution, don't talk to your neighbors.

“I'd rather have the thieves than the neighbors - the thieves don't impose. Thieves just want your things, neighbors want your time. I'd rather give them things than time.”

Larry David
 

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Understood. But it'll end up that I will need to "find someone" who can help her, and then also continual questions for me about how her gun works, she can't rack the slide, she can't figure it out, etc. It really is exhausting - this is a woman who constantly calls my wife or our other neighbor to come over to help her zip/unzip her dress or blouse, fasten or unfasten her bra, or put her earrings in. Seriously. It's that bad.

I know what you’re saying. We used to have “regulars” that we would get calls for assistance. Most were elderly people who didn’t have any family or anyone to talk to. We would respond as usual, go through the routine, BP, vitals, etc, find nothing wrong and then talk for a few minutes to catch up.

When I was stationed way out in northeast Okc, there was a little old lady who loved to cook and she would call us and ask what kind of pie or cake we wanted. She was a great cook, but all she wanted was some company and conversation with someone besides her dogs.
 

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Instead of thinking you know best when it comes to her rights, just be frank with her. Tell her what you think of her carrying a gun. 50/50 she loses interest or finds the hate inspiration to go full bore. Either way, she'll probably stop seeking attention from you.
 

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Tell her to foget about the "Glock" and to concentrate on 12 ga shotguns then take her to the range and let her shoot several boxes of 3" shells and go see her the next day and ask if she still "wants." She'll be so sore that she never will want a gun.
 

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Wow! On a gun forum.....

I know man, see, this is what happens all too often: the OP asked a legitimate question and it quickly started going south. It turned into a deal all about judging and interfering and so on. Sigh...I do think 65ny offered the best answer to the question so far. Many of us have had similar situations come up, maybe not about guns, but then again, maybe so. Example, a lady my wife and I know has asked me to help her buy a gun and then teach her how to shoot so she can protect herself from her allegedly violent ex-husband. Right. Like I'm going to get involved with that mess. No way. I can see it now: "Yes your Honor, I shot him in self defense, I double-tapped his azz and then dumped the rest of mag in his noggin just like Mr. Druryj taught me to do".
 

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Who are you to decide what another citizen needs? This is the mentality that allows liberals to take away Rights from citizens, I know what you need. To some people nothing is a God given Right to people that believe they know more than their neighbor.

Wow! On a gun forum.....

In my opinion there is a large difference between "Someone shouldn't be legally allowed to have a gun" and "I don't want to be involved with them getting a gun." Same as a gun store has every right to refuse a deal if they feel something is wrong.

@tRidiot as a person CANNOT deny her rights. He can't stop her from doing the research on her own and getting a gun and the carry license. He does have every right to refuse to help her do so himself.
 

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