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dennishoddy

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I hope I can live to see the day that all nuclear and coal energy production is stopped and replaced with something that is clean and renewable.
There is nothing out there that matches your desires. We are a society that lives off of transportation and energy.
Energy is never going to go into decline. It will always move forward in usage.
 

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Let's continue.
NAFTA and the Unions both contributed to the decline of the rust belt states, but Democratic policies were and continue to be issues that plague cities and their economies.
Detroit, Baltimore, St Louis, New Orleans, DC, Seattle, and so on are prime examples of failed policies resulting in high crime, high poverty and high homelessness among the population. How anyone can continue to vote to remain broke and homeless is beyond me but they continue to vote to remain that way.
Living on handouts is not living.

You have landed on OSA. Welcome to our world.

I agree 100% with this. And its one of the main reasons I get called a republican by liberal people on FB many times a week. Its also why I wont live in these states even though I like the area, history, architecture. The politics I just can't stomach.

Back to tranny's.
I'm not homophobic. I've always said it ain't a real party until the full blown tranny in a boa shows up.
But when your doing a tour on an isolated mountain top site with zero access other than helo and your NCOIC is an aggressive homo that likes to watch you take showers in an open enclosure, it puts one into a very bad situation. It took a full, "we are going to mutiny" message from 14 guys to HQ before the situation was handled quietly, and the offender was just moved to another unit. Not right.
Nothing different than a male superior subordinating a female because of rank, etc, or a lesbian aggressor.

Ok, I agree that is a problem. But it requires a different solution than banning all LGBT from serving. The military has a long history of allowing sexual predators to continue to serve and this culture needs to change. The problem is that most of the brass at the top are older and set in their ways. This makes them less willing to think a different way. When change is finally forced on the armed forces its in policies that are idiotic and make the enlisted grow resistant to any positive changes in that direction. I just want any able bodied person, regardless of sex, ethnicity, religion, or sexual orientation to be able to proudly serve our country without having to hide who they are.

You have landed on OSA. Welcome to our world.

lol I've been on the internet for a long time, started on BBS's back in my college day using a monocolor unix terminal. Nothings changed except we now have pretty HTML code on forums instead of just text on BBS's. Its all good.
 

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There is nothing out there that matches your desires. We are a society that lives off of transportation and energy.
Energy is never going to go into decline. It will always move forward in usage.

Not yet there isn't, but that doesn't mean we should stop all research. I agreed that wind/solar so far have been a bust with the exception of people putting solar panels on their homes. But, that only works during the day, at night they are back on the grid or just live in the dark. One thing else, and this is back to using Hydrogen, you stated that separating Hydrogen takes too much energy to make it viable, again, I agree. My physics teacher touched on this. The analogy he gave is that the energy potential in hydrogen is like a wound spring with a hidden trigger. Right now we do not know what the trigger is, so we have to go the long way to get the potential energy out. There could come a time when we find an easier way to disrupt the bonds between hydrogen and oxygen without spending an equal amount of energy to do so. Much like the small mechanical energy is needed to release potential energy in a primer, which then releases the potential energy stored in the gunpowder. This is what I mean by I hope to live to see a time when coal, nuclear and fossil fuel is removed from society and a cleaner, renewable energy source is used instead.
 

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Having been in dry parts of this country, and some isn't that far from Oklahoma, I have a big concern with hydrogen power for vehicles. There are areas where water is in short supply. Have you all had water rationing yet? So, I have a problem with taking water needed for life (all kinds of life) and burning it like we are burning some food products in the form of ethanol.

Now, I'm not into the science of converting water to a hydrogen fuel, so maybe there is something that I'm missing.
 

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Typically it is wise to spend about 10% of available research funds on "basic research" - completely new approaches that might lead to new technologies. The other 90% should go toward improving existing technologies.

You need a foundation, otherwise your castle in the sky isn't happening.
 

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If you believe this, then you don't understand the laws of thermodynamics.
While I stand behind science, new discoveries are made every day, some that challenge what we thought we knew about the physical world. 60 years ago scientists told us it was physically impossible for a human to run a mile in under 4 minutes. We believed them, until someone proved them wrong. Besides, I said it was a dream to see something like this happen. Who knows, maybe some new energy source will be developed. I'm just saying that sticking our heads in the sand, yelling "drill baby drill!" isn't going to solve our energy and pollution problems in the long run.
 

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"Some new energy source" is not even remotely the same as "disrupt[ing] the bonds between hydrogen and oxygen without spending an equal amount of energy to do so." See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_law_of_thermodynamics, and focus on the words "closed system." Yes, you can use a new energy source--or even an old one--to add energy to the system and break the bonds, but the H-O bond has a fixed amount of energy in it, and it will always take that delta to break. Catalysts may reduce the activation energy, lowering the "hump" you have to surmount to break the bond, but the excess between the bond and free-state will be re-emitted.

Thermodynamics doesn't lie. Catalysts improve efficiency, but you still have to put in the energy to break the bond, and you'll still get that much back out when you burn (or otherwise consume) the hydrogen. Minus the losses, of course--that's the second law of thermodynamics.

Put briefly, the three laws are:
1: You can't win.
2: You can't break even.
3: You'll keep going until you get to zero.
 

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A problem with some of the interesting alternative energy ideas, is the very real threat of people weaponizing them. Micro nuclear sounds promising, but the necessary security would almost certainly offset any benefits.
 

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