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We have 2 men and one lady armed every week . The responsibility is rotated among volunteers and the set dispersed anonymous in the crowd . Only the committee head knows who they are . We are a church of only 155 avg attendance.
 

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We have 2 men and one lady armed every week . The responsibility is rotated among volunteers and the set dispersed anonymous in the crowd . Only the committee head knows who they are . We are a church of only 155 avg attendance.

I’m curious what type of training these volunteers have had and the ongoing training to be deemed suitable for this responsibility.
 

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You could go to St Johns Episcopal in Norman where no handguns signs are posted. I’m sure anyone with evil intent will see the signs and pick another place. If they don’t, maybe Father Dwight will wave incense at them and that should do the trick.


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I’m curious what type of training these volunteers have had and the ongoing training to be deemed suitable for this responsibility.
Point of interest:
https://www.concealedcarry.com/news...Pyfh1NOAmBm7Glvp3HdvQ0tcOfTpq8uzSux0iwv9dLN-4

"As you can see below, however, at the 33 incidents at which Armed Citizens were present, there were zero situations at which the Armed Citizen injured or killed an innocent person. It never happened." (FBI data, by the way.)

I'd never dissuade anybody from getting training, but the data suggest that "bad shoots" by armed private citizens just aren't a significant problem. I've seen data to support that for more than twenty years (the one I recall from the late nineties looked at concealed carry across the board, not just "active shooter" events, and found the errant shoot rate for private citizens was about 1/4 that of cops).
 

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Point of interest:
https://www.concealedcarry.com/news...Pyfh1NOAmBm7Glvp3HdvQ0tcOfTpq8uzSux0iwv9dLN-4

"As you can see below, however, at the 33 incidents at which Armed Citizens were present, there were zero situations at which the Armed Citizen injured or killed an innocent person. It never happened." (FBI data, by the way.)

I'd never dissuade anybody from getting training, but the data suggest that "bad shoots" by armed private citizens just aren't a significant problem. I've seen data to support that for more than twenty years (the one I recall from the late nineties looked at concealed carry across the board, not just "active shooter" events, and found the errant shoot rate for private citizens was about 1/4 that of cops).

This. When police errant shoot rates get lower than CCW'ers, then that can be a topic of concern. Until then, it's a non-starter.
 

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I went to a church some time ago that hired retired and current police and sheriff deputy's to patrol the building anytime there were services. Pretty large church at that.
 

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