ar-15 in .223/5.56, changing over to 6.5

MacFromOK · Nov 14, 2018

This page has some good info about alternative calibers for the AR-15 platform.
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https://www.pewpewtactical.com/best-alternative-ar-15-cartridges-and-calibers/

Neanderthal · Nov 14, 2018

Mad Professor said:
Honestly, I didn't consider steel cased ammo.
A quick check at SGammo show American Eagle or Remington UMC can be found for .60-.70 a round for a 6.8 SPC. You are looking .97-1.05 for a 6.5 Grendel. Prvi Partizan .60 vs .75 (20rd boxes) I feel that is pretty much comparing apples vs apples.

And 6.5 Grendel in Wolf is as cheap as .25 cents a round; that's not even offered in 6.8.

swampratt · Nov 15, 2018

I can understand wanting to change to larger diameter bullet but dead is dead no matter the size of the bullet.
I have choice of many calibers when i go hunting.
.223, .243, .308, 30-06 and 30-30 not to mention the 12 gauge.
But I find myself taking the .223 more often than any other gun.
I hand load and use the 55gr V-max. just devastating on deer and hogs. I can't see any more dead with a larger diameter bullet than the bang flop I get with the the little one.
My .223 kills have been as close as 10 feet and as far as 150 yards.

But if you wish to change the gun there is no harm in doing just that.
If the .223 is accurate and you can put the bullet where it needs to go i would not mess with it.
If accuracy is poor then I would look into a change of things.. If you can't hit the correct spot with an accurate gun the larger bullet will not make killing any better.

My worst killing gun is my 30-30 ,,worst as in deer like to run . That bullet just pencils through I was using the 150gr flat nose.
2250 fps just did not get much expansion from it. So energy of the bullet just did not end up in the animal.
Think about that when you pick a bullet for the 6.5 or any caliber and want to kill animals dead in their tracks.

Neanderthal · Nov 15, 2018

swampratt said:
I can understand wanting to change to larger diameter bullet but dead is dead no matter the size of the bullet.
I have choice of many calibers when i go hunting.
.223, .243, .308, 30-06 and 30-30 not to mention the 12 gauge.
But I find myself taking the .223 more often than any other gun.
I hand load and use the 55gr V-max. just devastating on deer and hogs. I can't see any more dead with a larger diameter bullet than the bang flop I get with the the little one.
My .223 kills have been as close as 10 feet and as far as 150 yards.

But if you wish to change the gun there is no harm in doing just that.
If the .223 is accurate and you can put the bullet where it needs to go i would not mess with it.
If accuracy is poor then I would look into a change of things.. If you can't hit the correct spot with an accurate gun the larger bullet will not make killing any better.

My worst killing gun is my 30-30 ,,worst as in deer like to run . That bullet just pencils through I was using the 150gr flat nose.
2250 fps just did not get much expansion from it. So energy of the bullet just did not end up in the animal.
Think about that when you pick a bullet for the 6.5 or any caliber and want to kill animals dead in their tracks.

The 6.5 Grendel is faster, has more energy, and has better ballistics out to a much further range than .223. It's also inexpensive to shoot, the recoil is light, and all you have to change is barrel, bolt, and mags. In fact, the 6.5 Grendel is more comparable to a .308 than it is .223/5.56....all of this out of an AR-15. I completely understand why someone would want to do it.

Oklahomabassin · Nov 15, 2018

Neanderthal said:
And 6.5 Grendel in Wolf is as cheap as .25 cents a round; that's not even offered in 6.8.

.224/round

Oklahomabassin · Nov 15, 2018

Neanderthal said:
6.8 SPC is cheaper than $5.95 a box? Cuz that's what I give for Wolf 6.5 Grendel ammo.

.2975/ round.

Neanderthal · Nov 15, 2018

Oklahomabassin said:
.224/round
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Man, I would have bought all of that 6.8 SPC ammo that they'd sell me at that price! I don't have a gun that even shoots that round, but that would be incentive to get one.

I've been buying Hornady Black 6.5 Grendel for $16.50 a box.

Neanderthal · Nov 15, 2018

Oklahomabassin said:
.2975/ round.

Buy it in bulk and it's cheaper.

steelfingers · Nov 15, 2018

Bear Creek Armory has the 24" full upper. They are out of stock now, but I will be buying one in 6.5 Grendel

Oklahomabassin · Nov 15, 2018

Neanderthal said:
Buy it in bulk and it's cheaper.

I don't have a dock for a truck, so I have to pay extra for delivery with a hydraulic tailgate.

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