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None of my children ask me for anything. I have nothing really to offer except for my time but that doesn't seem to mean much to people these days.

They never come and see me either. I think it is because I'm about the only person that has ever told them "no".
 

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I get along great with my kids. Supply them with fish and game when available, help when needed.
We have an extended family with one son living in Tx, other living in Ponca. My son, living in Ponca is severely handicapped in a wheelchair due to an accident, and is actually living on his own debt free other than utilities. He ratholed enough of his disability money to buy a very modest home that is accessible. Help from friends and family got it into shape.
I hate to see family friction. I’m ok with my ex being around, (we do share children)her parents treated me like a son and I respected them for doing that. My ex’s parents and mine became friends traveling and visiting until they all passed away many years after my second marriage culminated.
It took a few years after the kids moved out that I realized I needed to be their friend and no longer their custodial parent. We got along much better then.
Offer what life skills I’ve acquired to them and let them succeed or flounder. It’s their choice now.

The family unit has been fractured for awhile now by political decisions dating from the President Johnson years when the “great society” started and people found out that if DAD is out of the house the baby makers could keep producing babies for financial reasons. More kids = more $$.
That created a level of citizenship that relied on government to support them.
The dim’s keep the mantra of a dependent segment of society as their voting base saying they are the champions of helping the poor, disabled and sick, when exactly the opposite is true. The dims keep doling out the $$ so they don’t have to become a productive member of society.
The exact reason they want open borders;
To create a dependent class.
No matter that Trump ownes the best record in history for just about all minority’s in jobs.
 

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I have a son and a daughter I cherish. However, my wife does the same thing with our daughter that lives about 8 miles away. She volunteers me to go help my son-in-law install a garage opener, fence, doggie door, etc. I bought him a tool bench and tools for Christmas. I also have his non running truck in my driveway.
 

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"A truly rich man is one whose children rush into his arms when his hands are empty."

I do all of the work around the house, painting , plumbing, electrical and general repairs. Not one of my kids volunteers to help and I don't ask. When I was younger I often dreamt of helping my kids and in turn they'd help me but somehow things didn't work out. They're out of state except for one and his wife won't visit. Maybe I'm fortunate? Maybe I'm not? A hundred years from now it won't matter anyway.
 

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I get along with them (my kids) just fine and I also give them free meat that I harvested and packaged.
Free homemade jelly etc.

But the last few months that younger boy has been crying he is tired and would rather con his mother or me into bringing him things ..He can go buy his own things .
I gave him over $900 worth of tools for his new job a month ago. And paid for his trucking school also a few years ago.

Just seems it is time for him to man up.

I worked my butt off to get what I have many double shifts and 24hour on call.
I took all the work they would let me have I would work 30 hours on the weekends to really make bank and I never cried to anyone that I was too tied to get thing done for myself.

I told him on the phone when he said he had only 2 hours of sleep that that is a good thing Take their money when they give it to you.
Eat a lot of protein and keep going.
He is mid 20's and I feel he should be able to get it done without help from a 50 year old fart.
 

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Most of us weren't born with a silver soon in our mouth and had to work hard for whatever we obtained. In fact, many were born poor and either remained there or took the first chance we got and left the plantation. Me, I joined the military and received an education, it wasn't hard because I already had it hard and anything they threw at me was easy. Some cried, and took the easy way out and were discharged early on but I remained at $78 per month and paid Social Security, federal and state taxes out of that grand salary. The younger ones these days don't know what work is and certainly don't know the value of work. I've always enjoyed working but I'm not sure what they want out of life, maybe a free ride without contributing to the cost of the ride? Thats what some politicians are promoting in order to get votes. Someone has to pay for the ride...
 

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Kids can change. I'm not a demonstrative person, so the wife and I seldom hold hands or kiss each other. My oldest son once commented that he didn't think I loved the wife because of that, in spite of the fact that we had been married for so many years and always did things together.

About a year ago and now that he's been married a while and had four kids, he took me aside to talk to me. He was choking up and finding it hard to speak. Finally, he managed to apologize because he now realized just how much I had to have sacrificed in order for the family to have what it did. I never finished college, but I was right there to assist and encourage the wife and both boys to get their degrees. For the most part, the boys did have to pay for their own college, but I'm sure that they appreciate their educations just that much more.
 

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