These videos are just to make the consumer aware of the possibilities of discharge. They should be making the manufacturers recall and fix their weapons.
Comments from that link:
"The reporter does not know the difference between negligent discharges--which are the fault of the shooter--and accidental discharges. Of the eight instances listed, 6 would be negligent discharges. When the user's finger fires the gun "accidentally" by pressing on the trigger, that's not the gun's fault.
The remaining two cases--where it is claimed that the gun fired when dropped--seem to be unsubstantiated claims. From an engineering perspective, it is literally impossible for a properly maintained SIG Sauer to fire without the trigger being pulled. That is because an industry-standard plunger in the frame blocks the firing pin from moving forward unless the trigger is pulled. Such safeties were invented (I believe) in 1937 and became popular in the 1980s. All SIG Sauer P-series pistols (P220, P226, P229, etc.) have them.
Yes, a SIG Sauer pistol that is NOT in good working order can exhibit all sorts of problems, including unintended discharges from mechanical causes. However, that is true of any firearm. It is not a design flaw. If anything, it is a failure of the of the police department's armorers, who are responsible for inspecting and maintaining the force's firearms.
Bad reporting, showing pro-litigant, anti-gun bias. Try knowing the facts."
HAHAHAH!! That was an epic thread!
The difference is that when people carry cocked and locked vs when people carry hammer down. When cocked and locked its in SA mode, not DA. When you use DA as a safety its virtually impossible for an AD (vs ND). The gun can not go off accidentally if the hammer is decocked unless you drop it just perfectly so the hammer is struck in the exact same direction that it would strike the firing pin.
Please explain in detail how "ADs" happen with lets say a 1911. Then give me a real world documented example.
Not sure what you are asking here. I was showing that the cases where a DA/SA pistol has gone off accidentally as mentioned in the quoted article they were cocked and locked which puts them in SA mode. In DA mode (aka hammer decocked) its virtually impossible for an AD to occur, unless you hit that one spot on the hammer while dropping the firearm.
We can sit here and argue about this till we both turn blue. I won't carry a striker fired pistol, plain and simple, just like I won't carry my PX4 cocked and locked. I train to be able to shoot both DA and SA for that reason. Yes, I know that the chances of a striker style pistol having an AD while carrying is small, but to me the chance is still there. I don't want some little brat ramming me with a cart and possibly setting off my pistol. Will it happen? Probably not. Could it happen? yes. Can it happen with a DA with the hammer decocked? No. To each their own.
Nope. You cannot carry the older P series with decockers Sigs, cocked and locked. Try again. What I am asking though, if you were correct, is to show how a cocked and locked platform is relatively unsafe vs a DA/SA platform, negating user error of course. Given the 1911 is one of the more famous ones, that's what I chose. Feel free to use another C&L platform if you know the mechanics better that will somehow translate to your opinion on safety.
In terms of the someone ramming you with a shopping cart and setting off your pistol, you might want to read up on the different safeties that various platforms employ. Carry C&L or DA/SA, I couldn't care less. However, I believe what Gunbuffer was commenting on was that it gives some a false sense of security. I provided via link that it seems user error comes into play quite a bit and he might be on to something.
Please stop assuming that the person that carries a da/sa gun in DA mode will properly do so. The need to decock a hammer and or place a safety on “safe” introduces its own set of opportunities to violate safety precepts.
God will not ensure you properly safe your weapon and re holster in a safe manner. Doing so with a manual safety featured pistol is a lot more difficult to do time and time again than a plain ol point and shoot glock/Xs/m&p.
Your argument is kinda like bragging on your side impact airbags and stay in lane alerts while you’re driving in a snowstorm w bald tires.
God will not ensure you properly safe your weapon and re holster in a safe manner. Doing so with a manual safety featured pistol is a lot more difficult to do time and time again than a plain ol point and shoot glock/Xs/m&p.
Your argument is kinda like bragging on your side impact airbags and stay in lane alerts while you’re driving in a snowstorm w bald tires.
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Yeah! stop assuming .....Buffer the Christ is here to set you straight.
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