The Fight for Our Kids' Minds Is the Fight for Our Republic

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filbert

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How many teachers do you know? When you rank last in the country its ok to give a modest pay raise to teachers or they all go elsewhere (like Texas) the raise was necessary just to keep enough teachers to open the doors.

Schools won’t ever do better because teachers hands are tied, and parents on average just suck that’s the plain and simple truth. Want a better education for your child send them to a private hopefully conservative school and they may have a shot.
First, Oklahoma can't compete with Texas when it comes to pay, that will always be held over our heads. Dallas has more people and money then the whole state of Oklahoma, you think you can compete with them? Lol And you are right, teachers hands are tied, so who is trying to change that? No body, not the state, school boards, teachers or parents. Local schools fight to not change, OEA will fight to allow charter schools, or just let the parents pick where their kids go to schools, etc., Yes, I know some teachers, and they are no different then other workers, some are good and some aren't, but they can have good jobs. A lot of time off, and benefits. If they don't like it quit. Last, my kids mom homeschooled both of our children, she did a great job. When she schooled them she had a GED, later she got an associate degree, and then a bachelors degree. We cared about our kids, because she stayed home we lost 12 years of income she could have made, lets see, 12 years @ 40,000$ = 480,000$. How many vacations, cars, boats, dirt bikes, ski trips would that have bought? We are divorced now, but she did an awesome job with the kids and I will always be thankful to her for that. And we aren't tough enough on our kids, one reason foreign schools do better is because they push their kids, its all they have. We give our kids to much, my dad never bought me a car, payed my car insurance, he told me "I will give you food, clothes, and shelter, the rest you will get on your own". God, thank you for my dad, he made me tough, and for my mom, she loved me know matter what trouble I got into, an God you know I should be in prison or dead long ago. Sorry, got to rambling, don't mean any harm here, just trying to help.
 

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Yeah, public schools and public school teachers are definitely the problem. Parents are also a part of the problem, but to dismiss the roles of schools in destroying our youth is naive.


The following excerpt is relevant:

http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/probe/docs/newageed.html

The Great Brain Robbery

Humanism is the dominant view among leading educators in the U.S. They set the trends of modern education, develop the curriculum, dispense federal monies, and advise government officials on educational needs. In short, they hold the future in their hands. As Christian taxpayers we are paying for the overthrow of our own position.

Charles Francis Potter, an original signer of the first Humanist Manifesto and honorary president of the National Education Association, has this to say about public school education: "Education is thus a most powerful ally of Humanism, and every American public school is a school of Humanism."

Not only are the leading educators of America promoting humanism, but so are those who write the textbooks children use in the classroom.

A sociology textbook dealing with ethics states: "There are exceptions to almost all moral laws, depending on the situation. What is wrong in one instance may be right in another. Most children learn that it is wrong to lie. But later they may learn that it is tactless, if not actually wrong, not to lie under certain circumstances."
(End quote.)

We (those who have been studying trends in education) have known the above for decades. Moral relativity surfaced in the 60s under the guise of "Situation Ethics." I first studied this in college in the early 70s. The main proponent of Situation Ethics was Joseph Fletcher, a nasty excuse for a human being.

I have a book in my library, "How Should We Then Live" by Francis Schaeffer. Dr Schaeffer examines humanism in detail from ancient Rome to the 1970s, inclusive. This has been an ongoing conspiracy involving (those who write) textbooks, teachers (who simply parrot textbooks), schools, the National Education Association (ironically, the worst enemy of education), teacher's unions, et al.

And for those unfamiliar with humanism, it says that man is great, by himself. He is inherently a glorious and self sufficient creature, and does not need a Creator. Man has the ability to dictate the terms of his own life and doesn't need God, the Bible, or any other external. Man only needs to do what he feels is best for himself. Various cultures and peoples have embraced it. Without fail, they failed miserably.

We saw this in America in the 60s when the mantra of the rebellious baby boomers was, "It's your thing; do what you want to do."

Those people were looking for a literal revolution. When that failed, they started moving into education and politics. The rest is history.

It would be nice if concerned parents would mobilize and take back the public schools, but I suspect Pandora's box has already been opened at this point.
I agree.
 

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