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My EDC is a G19Gen4MOS with a Leupold DeltaPoint Pro. If you throw the gun up and look for the dot, you will spend critical time looking for the dot. If you throw the gun up and look for the iron sights, you will find the dot. And yes, I offer one on one training, check my signature line. That is all......
 

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Using a red dot optic on a carry pistol takes a LOT, and I do mean a LOT of practice to get proper sight alignment every time, and I don't think 99.9% of people carrying red dot pistols actually train to acquire the dot. They just hope it'll line up when needed.
I've basically given up with optics on pistols because it's so "different". When my eyes can no longer do irons at all, which is happening all too fast, then I'll make the jump. Doing both doesn't work for me at all.

I have used Burris fast fire 3, Trijicon RMR, Vortex Venom, and Holosun HS507c. The holosun was my favorite by far. It allows 2 moa dot, 35 moa circle, or 35 moa circle and 2moa dot combined, very EoTec like. It also was not the typical red dot look, I have a bad astigmatism and even with corrective lens all but the holosun looked stared. The holosun does not look washed out like an EoTec does. Very crisp. With the holosun on my g34 inhad no issues picking up the reticle. If it's set up right, just point naturally and look for the sights as normal, the dot will appear. Everyone is different though, so take it for what it is

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You aren't the only one who likes them. I may have to borrow one to play with and if there's an optic that may change my mind on the above post, this would probably be the one.
 

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When my eyes can no longer do irons at all, which is happening all too fast, then I'll make the jump. Doing both doesn't work for me at all.

I'm there. Once you train with the dot it come to the eye just as well as irons in controlled conditions. If your in extreme conditions, your probably just going to point shoot at extreme close ranges. Some dots are faster to acquire than others.
 

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