Dallas County, DA John Creuzot: "will not prosecute theft of personal items less than $750"

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Ok I corrected it. I originally thought $1000 but only saw the $500 mentioned. That's what I get when I try to speed read.
 

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I agree with some of the reasons he states for implementing these policies, but the actual policies…:screwy:

Based on this genius DA's guidelines for requesting bail, someone could punch a random stranger in the face, get arrested, be released without bail, punch another random stranger, get arrested, released without bail, and repeat for as long as they want until they're convicted and sentenced to jail. Except they won't ever be convicted, because they'll fail to appear and as long as the prosecutor can't prove the failure to appear was an attempt to evade prosecution (pick any excuse - "my car broke down," "I forgot to do laundry," "I forgot the date"), they'll be given a new date for their trial and released again. Is excessive bail a problem in this country? Yeah. Is this the solution? I have a feeling this is what John Creuzot has been doing in his spare time...

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And don't even get me started on not prosecuting theft.

My wife and I don't go far from home very often, but we sometimes talk about how a day trip down to Dallas might be fun. That's no longer on our list after this. Good luck with your upcoming crime spree, Dallas County.
 

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Many years ago, anything $50.00 and up was a felony.

Now there are different circumstances, times and places added. The one highlighted with the punishment of weekends or nights in the county jail is a real deterrent.




§ 21-1704v1 - Grand And Petit Larceny Defined.
Grand larceny is larceny committed in either of the following cases:

1. When the property taken is of value exceeding One Thousand Dollars ($1,000.00); or

2. When such property, although not of value exceeding One Thousand Dollars ($1,000.00), is taken from the person of another.

Larceny in other cases is petit larceny.

R.L. 1910, § 2655. Amended by Laws 1982, c. 277, § 4, operative Oct. 1, 1982; Laws 2001, c. 437, § 10, eff. July 1, 2001; Laws 2016, c. 221, § 16, eff. Nov. 1, 2016.


§ 21-1704v2
- Grand And Petit Larceny Defined.
Grand larceny is larceny committed in either of the following cases:

1. When the property taken is of value exceeding One Thousand Dollars ($1,000.00).

2. When such property, although not of value exceeding One Thousand Dollars ($1,000.00), is taken from the person of another.

Larceny in other cases is petit larceny.

R.L. 1910, § 2655. Amended by Laws 1982, c. 277, § 4, operative Oct. 1, 1982; Laws 2001, c. 437, § 10, eff. July 1, 2001; State Question No. 780, Initiative Petition No. 404, § 4, adopted at General Election held on November 8, 2016, eff. July 1, 2017.

§ 21-1705v1 - Grand Larceny A Felony.
Grand larceny is a felony punishable by imprisonment in the custody of the Department of Corrections not exceeding five (5) years, a fine not exceeding Five Thousand Dollars ($5,000.00), or by both such fine and imprisonment if the value of the property is One Thousand Dollars ($1,000.00) or more and if the value of the property is less than One Thousand Dollars ($1,000.00) punishable by incarceration in the county jail for not more than one (1) year or by incarceration in the county jail one or more nights or weekends pursuant to Section 991a-2 of Title 22 of the Oklahoma Statutes, at the option of the court, a fine not exceeding One Thousand Dollars ($1,000.00), or by both such fine and imprisonment. The defendant shall also be ordered to provide restitution to the victim as provided in Section 991a of Title 22 of the Oklahoma Statutes.

R.L. 1910, § 2656. Amended by Laws 1993, c. 147, § 6, eff. Sept. 1, 1993; Laws 1997, c. 133, § 390, eff. July 1, 1999; Laws 1999, 1st Ex. Sess., c. 5, § 282, eff. July 1, 1999; Laws 2016, c. 221, § 17, eff. Nov. 1, 2016.

NOTE: Laws 1998, 1st Ex. Sess., c. 2, § 23 amended the effective date of Laws 1997, c. 133, § 390 from July 1, 1998, to July 1, 1999.


§ 21-1705v2 - Grand Larceny A Felony.
Grand larceny is a felony punishable by imprisonment in the State Penitentiary not exceeding five (5) years if the value of the property is One Thousand Dollars ($1,000.00) or more and if the value of the property is less than One Thousand Dollars ($1,000.00) punishable by incarceration in the county jail for not more than one (1) year or by incarceration in the county jail one or more nights or weekends pursuant to Section 991a-2 of Title 22 of the Oklahoma Statutes, at the option of the court, and shall be subject to a fine of not more than Five Thousand Dollars ($5,000.00) and ordered to provide restitution to the victim as provided in Section 991a of Title 22 of the Oklahoma Statutes.

R.L. 1910, § 2656. Amended by Laws 1993, c. 147, § 6, eff. Sept. 1, 1993; Laws 1997, c. 133, § 390, eff. July 1, 1999; Laws 1999, 1st Ex. Sess., c. 5, § 282, eff. July 1, 1999; State Question No. 780, Initiative Petition No. 404, § 5, adopted at General Election held on November 8, 2016, eff. July 1, 2017.

NOTE: Laws 1998, 1st Ex. Sess., c. 2, § 23 amended the effective date of Laws 1997, c. 133, § 390 from July 1, 1998, to July 1, 1999.

§ 21-1708 - Grand Larceny In Night Time From Person A Felony.
When it appears upon such trial, that such larceny was committed by stealing in the night time, from the person of another, the offender shall be guilty of a felony punishable by imprisonment in the State Penitentiary not exceeding ten (10) years.

R.L. 1910, § 2659. Amended by Laws 1997, c. 133, § 392, eff. July 1, 1999; Laws 1999, 1st Ex.Sess., c. 5, § 284, eff. July 1, 1999.

NOTE: Laws 1998, 1st Ex.Sess., c. 2, § 23 amended the effective date of Laws 1997, c. 133, § 392 from July 1, 1998, to July 1, 1999.




§ 21-1707 - Grand Larceny In House Or Vessel A Felony.
When it appears upon a trial for grand larceny that the larceny alleged was committed in any dwelling house or vessel, the offender shall be guilty of a felony punishable by imprisonment in the State Penitentiary not exceeding eight (8) years.

R.L. 1910, § 2658. Amended by Laws 1997, c. 133, § 391, eff. July 1, 1999; Laws 1999, 1st Ex.Sess., c. 5, § 283, eff. July 1, 1999.

NOTE: Laws 1998, 1st Ex.Sess., c. 2, § 23 amended the effective date of Laws 1997, c. 133, § 391 from July 1, 1998, to July 1, 1999.
 

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Distinguishing between misdemeanor theft and felony theft is one thing, but when you say you're just not going to prosecute the vast majority of thefts, that's something entirely different. Oklahoma does nothing remotely similar, as far as I'm aware.
 

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I think it was over $500 BEFORE to be a felony, and now it's over $1000 to be a felony. I remember thinking what a travesty it was that stealing almost any average handgun from a homeowner these days would be a misdemeanor.

If you broke into a house and stole a $100 firearm it would still be a felony burglary charge.

2014 Oklahoma Statutes
Title 21. Crimes and Punishments
§21-1431. Burglary in first degree.

Universal Citation: 21 OK Stat § 21-1431 (2014)
Every person who breaks into and enters the dwelling house of another, in which there is at the time some human being, with intent to commit some crime therein, either:

1. By forcibly bursting or breaking the wall, or an outer door, window, or shutter of a window of such house or the lock or bolts of such door, or the fastening of such window or shutter; or

2. By breaking in any other manner, being armed with a dangerous weapon or being assisted or aided by one or more confederates then actually present; or

3. By unlocking an outer door by means of false keys or by picking the lock thereof, or by lifting a latch or opening a window, is guilty of burglary in the first degree.

R.L.1910, § 2611. Amended by Laws 1979, c. 43, § 1, eff. Oct. 1, 1979.

2014 Oklahoma Statutes
Title 21. Crimes and Punishments
§21-1436. Burglary.

Universal Citation: 21 OK Stat § 21-1436 (2014)
Burglary is a felony punishable by imprisonment in the State Penitentiary as follows:

1. Burglary in the first degree for any term not less than seven (7) years nor more than twenty (20) years; and

2. Burglary in the second degree not exceeding seven (7) years and not less than two (2) years.

R.L. 1910, § 2616. Amended by Laws 1997, c. 133, § 357, eff. July 1, 1999; Laws 1999, 1st Ex.Sess., c. 5, § 250, eff. July 1, 1999.

NOTE: Laws 1998, 1st Ex.Sess., c. 2, § 23 amended the effective date of Laws 1997, c. 133, § 357 from July 1, 1998, to July 1, 1999.
 

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What the hell does that even mean? Personal items? Economic gain? WTF?
I guess if I'm mugged and the criminal steals my phone because he really needs it to connect with his bros, that's not economic gain maybe?:drunk5:
I'm pretty sure the mugging would still be prosecuted as a felony. I haven't read the letter, but he must be talking about burglary (which is a crime against property), not robbery (which is a crime against a person or persons).

Stating it in public seems pretty stupid on the face of it, but there's no telling what kind of a poopstorm would be unleashed if he just did it quietly. You know there would be charges of racism because the person with blue skin got charged for mugging someone and taking his $250 sneakers while the person with purple skin didn't get charged at all when he grabbed someone's $700 smartphone off the table at McDooble's and ran off with it...
 

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Dallas County DA defends criminal justice reform efforts to Dallas councilmembers

Creuzot reiterated that none of his policies are set in stone.

“We may have disagreements and fears about this policy or the other, but I think a lot of that is more fear then reality. But time will tell and if we need to make adjustments we will,” Creuzot said.

The last thing our criminal justice system needs is more arbitrary & inconsistent enforcement. It's tyranny to have an abundance of laws hanging over the citizenry's heads that no one knows if or when will be enforced. With the exception of uncommon or unusual situations, a DA's prosecutorial discretion should only be applied based on whether he thinks he can show the defendant's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. John Creuzot is trying to bypass the legislature and legislate criminal justice reform.
 

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