Shooting backstop

TonyKane1 said:

They are anti gun liberals. She is a teacher at my sons school. No one likes her or her brat kids.

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TonyKane1 said:

worthless neighbor

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blake711 said:

So I read this whole post. My personal opinion is no way I would be shooting a gun at a backstop in your circumstance with houses as close as Tony stated earlier. That is my personal opinion, bullets fly a long way, they ricochet. I didn't voice my opinion because that wasn't really what the thread was about.

I think Tony handled his situation in a constructive way. He contacted the authorities and was able to get some information that works in his favor.

At the end of the day I don't think what carter said was that inflammatory either. Some of us are more risk averse than others. Just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't mean they are Anti 2A or want to infringe on your rights.

I will say this, I don't think you help your argument/s when you are calling people names frequently in your posts.


There are multiple instances of this. There is a similar pattern in your HOA thread. Remember there is one common denominator in these issues. Not everyone is out to get you or screw you. Sometimes we have to take a deep breath and have a little introspection and see how we can improve things in a positive way.

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carter said:

Forget it... A person wanted input, to seek empathy, etc. When I gave input, I am this horrible individual as I did not side with him.... I tried to give input not just from me. But the nra. It did not agree with you so it was brushed aside. so screw it I am through with this.... Screw lt

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dennishoddy said:

I'm the President of the Ponca City Rifle and Pistol Club. Over 300 members. Our range is designed and developed using the NRA range design specifications.
I also have a personal range at home. I've read your concerns and agree with some of the safety considerations you have mentioned.
In my opinion, as a responsible shooter and competition shooter as well as a certified range safety officer that doesn't take safety at the range lightly I have to add some comments.
My personal range at home in the country has a 10' berm. Our club range has 20-30' berms depending on the NRA specifications for the distance within those ranges.
My personal range uses no steel, only paper targets shot at 10-20 yards for load development typically with rimfire or pistol rounds.
Our club range has steel and target stands on the range for our members to use. We have a requirement that all rounds that pass through or miss a target be required to hit the berm at 2-7' in height, with exception of special occasions where competitions are being held, again with NRA specifications.
We require all targets to be against the berms so ricochets would have to be almost vertical considering the height of the berms.
Now we enter into the conundrum of a public range and the requirements that the berms be so high.
When John Q Public shoots at your range, you always have the ones that do not understand or refuse to follow the safety rules because they just don't know how a bullet reacts when it hits an obstruction and becomes unstable, or has a partial hit on a target stand and becomes a ricochet.
The berm height is to mitigate the errant bullet and render it non lethal to those on the other side.
In the case of my personal 10' berm at home, I'm at close range with no steel, only paper for a target with a light wood target frame.
Nothing behind the berm for a mile or so but some cows possibly.
I also have had some issues with a neighbor that does not like gunfire that is 275 yards away that has given me the same LEO BS that Tony endured, and I don't shoot very often there. My berm is 180 degrees away from the neighbors house and I would have to shoot through my house to hit hers.
After one of the episodes where a GW explained to me that my shooting was making someone anti-gun, I said thanks, and then called a buddy and we shot around 200 rounds of clays over a couple of hours to demonstrate what real shooting was all about. Like it or not, she can't rule me.
There is no way in hell your going to take an anti-gunner and turn them around by aquising to their demands to not shoot. They win in that situation.
You move to the country to gain some freedom from draconian city rules and be more free.

I'm open to discussing any NRA range requirements and why they are required because you have some serious concerns and I respect that. We should all have safety with guns as our first requirement as responsible gun owners.

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carter said:

I have my own range ...on 80acres. It is built to nra guidelines. It is 7/8 mile to closest house. This is country.... Just living outside a city limit is not necessarily in the country. Houses close by, small enough lots for chain link fence????

I am member of oil capital rod and gun.

I am about safety and keeping people from becoming antigunners

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tRidiot said:

And yet, you advocate MORE restrictions on people than we have NOW. You yourself said you would be campaigning against Tony shooting on his own property with his own home-built backstop in a direction AWAY from other homes. In a manner already well within Oklahoma state law, AND approved by his local law enforcement. By definition, by your own very words, you think he should be required to go to the significant expense and inconvenience to build a complete range with tall berms, also thus likely affecting his property in a negative way from an aesthetic standpoint.

Just come right out and freaking admit that you think anyone who wants to shoot on their own property should have more restrictions on them than are in place by state law right now. Thus... you are in FAVOR of MORE restriction and MORE regulation on the exercise of firearms practice.

Right? Just be clear about it. If that's your position, then just OWN it.

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