Civilized Man May Soon Revile Abortion as it Does Slavery

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C_Hallbert

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Not my thoughts, but Neil Boortz’s (paraphrased): remember, about 90+% of the babies that are aborted are of Democrats that would grow up to be Democrat voters.


I think it’s sick and disgusting and NOT a woman’s choice, but murder. It is atrocious and those that commit it, support it and participate will be called upon in he judgement to answer for their sins.

I believe a woman’s choice ends with conception.....


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Now this is where it gets interesting. It was never argued classically, as far as I’m aware, that rational thought is the thing that distinguishes man from beast, and I don’t think it’s a compelling argument. There’s a clear gulf between the minds of humans and the minds of all animals, but there’s a broad range of mental and emotional capabilities among animals, some of which, while not as sophisticated as humans, can be described as rational thought. That doesn’t give them rights.

The philosophy of natural rights, including their origin, is a topic of remarkable depth. I’m looking forward to seeing what others have to say on it, but I’m mostly going to spectate for now because I’ve got a lot of work to get done tonight. But I will point out that in our Declaration of Independence, Jefferson, despite being possibly the most capable man alive at the time to expound on the origin of natural rights, chose to simply note that they are a self-evident truth. Much has been written by people smarter than all of us about the nature of human rights, but they all seemed to agree that, when you take a step back and look at nature, there’s a self-evident distinction between mankind and everything else, and it is the simple fact of being human that confers our rights. That’s not necessarily what it all comes down to, as much more has been written on the subject, but it’s a common line of thinking among 17th and 18th century philosophers. Most of them described this difference in terms of God creating mankind as separate and distinct from the rest of creation, but I don’t think that belief in God as the creator of all things is necessary to recognize the difference in nature between man and beast.

You made some excellent points. The theory that ‘God’ created man as superior and separate from the animal kingdom is pretentious and unrealistic.

Even a cursory comparison of humans with mammals and less complex creatures on an evolutionary basis reveals so many phenotypical similarities that one cannot deny the relationship; DNA and genotypical comparisons confirm this truth.

Whether life was God created, or if it spontaneously manifested and evolved to provide the differentiation between species that we have today, man and beast are closely related. This is not only because of the physical similarities (skeletal structure, integument, cardiovascular systems, neurological systems, digestive system, two eyes, two ears, etc), but behavioral similarities (aggression, concern, defense of self, family and herd or pack, etc).

The most significant and influential aspect of human evolution was the development of language.....this alone. Once language evolved into writing, the advantages quickly changed mankind’s relationship with all other creatures and the Earth’s environment. Well, we have changed our relationships with all other creatures except microbes which are still evolving along with us at an alarmingly close pace.




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I've posted it before, i believe, but for anyone wondering where the SCOTUS 24 week ban came from, here is a great podcast about the medical reason that 24 weeks is significant to fetus viability.

It's not an easy listen, and does have a great followup from three years later.

Radio Lab - 23 weeks, 6 days.
 

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The most significant and influential aspect of human evolution was the development of language.....this alone. Once language evolved into writing, the advantages quickly changed mankind’s relationship with all other creatures and the Earth’s environment. Well, we have changed our relationships with all other creatures except microbes which are still evolving along with us at an alarmingly close pace.

Dolphins actually have a language. They are also the only other mammal to show emotions, including negative ones (killer whales are actually a dolphin species and they have been known to kill for fun). So, should they be classified as a sentient species and given the same rights as humans?
 

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I guess a black Alabama state Representative has the answer to it all.
Rep. John Rogers (D-Birmingham) admitted that he believes abortion is murder and suggested it is better to “kill” these babies now instead of later after growing up in poverty and turning to crime.

He said, according to Alabama Political Reporter, “Some children are just unwanted. You either kill them now or you kill them later in the electric chair.”

He followed that up by saying, “I may bring a bill to force all men to have vasectomies. That would end this whole debate.”

The liberal news media has pretty much not said one thing about his comments.

https://yellowhammernews.com/state-...-sign-the-dems-are-in-cahoots-with-the-press/
 

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If only we could teach about sex and contraceptives at school. Except some folks think it’s the parents job to do that, not the school/society. Then they don’t actually teach their kids and just tell them to wait until marriage. And the kids don’t wait but weren’t educated in contraceptives and think once is okay. Then baby happens and now those kids have a burden that society will shame them for it they put it for adoption. But if they have an abortion they are also shamed. Or they leave it with one of their parents to be raised and everyone just whispers behind their backs. But it’s a good thing their parents taught them about abstinence and waiting for marriage.
 

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If only we could teach about sex and contraceptives at school. Except some folks think it’s the parents job to do that, not the school/society. Then they don’t actually teach their kids and just tell them to wait until marriage. And the kids don’t wait but weren’t educated in contraceptives and think once is okay. Then baby happens and now those kids have a burden that society will shame them for it they put it for adoption. But if they have an abortion they are also shamed. Or they leave it with one of their parents to be raised and everyone just whispers behind their backs. But it’s a good thing their parents taught them about abstinence and waiting for marriage.

I remember being taught what a condom was and how it was used, but they didn't show us (the ole condom on a banana). But they followed that up with sex should only be between married people and that sex out of wedlock is bad. In one sex ed lesson my teacher even went so far as to tell us any position other than the position God said is ok (missionary) is bad and leads to STDs. Of course this was 25-30 years ago in Oklahoma schools....
 

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I remember being taught what a condom was and how it was used, but they didn't show us (the ole condom on a banana). But they followed that up with sex should only be between married people and that sex out of wedlock is bad. In one sex ed lesson my teacher even went so far as to tell us any position other than the position God said is ok (missionary) is bad and leads to STDs. Of course this was 25-30 years ago in Oklahoma schools....

Our sex ed instructor in Junior High School said masturbation would cause hair to grow on the palms of your hand, and every guy in the room looked.......
 

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In one sex ed lesson my teacher even went so far as to tell us any position other than the position God said is ok (missionary) is bad and leads to STDs.
I believe sex other than between a man and woman married to each other is sin, but other than that anyone who thinks God wants sexual repression to the point of condemning anything but missionary position hasn’t read Song of Solomon. God’s all about great sex.
 

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