Joe Biden: Second Amendment Does Not Say You’re ‘Entitled’ to Own a Gun

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I don't believe they had the right to vote and campaign for what they wanted when they were ruled by a king, either. Not like we do. If what you want is not the will of the people and you can't convince the lawmakers in our democratic republic, then going to war is not the best way to handle it, IMNSHO. Now, if tyranny overrides some of our basic God-given human rights, the story may be different, don't you think?

When the welfare crowd votes in people who continue to take more and more and more of our livelihood, who are you going to take up arms against? Who do you arbitrarily start shooting to get your point across? Just asking...
Not to sound like a jerk but we have a constitutional republic not a democratic one. I truly believe things are going to get worse and worse as there is nothing to stop it. I hope I am wrong but I don’t think so. We have turned our backs on God as a nation and are paying the price for it. Reagan had the best quote for that. “When we are no longer one nation under God, we will be a nation gone under”. Well we are no longer one nation under God. Christians and Jews are hated in this country while Muslims are loved. There is a war against Christians and Jews (especially Christians). I cannot believe the filth that is being pushed in tv. I won’t even watch much anymore because of it. Even watching animal planet and discovery family they will air commercials for FX that contain sexually explicit content and language. No way that is an accident. Cartoons are pushing gay/trans crap as well. Our country is controlled by anti God traitors. As long as they rule we will continue the downward spiral. I know I always sound cynical but I am not blind to the fact of what’s going on. Just a realist. It kills me to think of what this country will be in 10-20 years. If it’s even still here. Hopefully Jesus returns soon so my family and I and all the other Christians can go to heaven. Now all you atheists go ahead and blast me for speaking about Christianity.
 

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Not to sound like a jerk but we have a constitutional republic not a democratic one.

Explain to me the difference, if you would. It's pretty esoteric and not clearly defined. Yes, this is a constitutional republic as it pertains to jurisprudence, but all elected officials are elected democratically, either directly or by proxy votes, as in the case of the Electoral College.

Essentially, it's impossible to pigeonhole the US system of governance into a single, simple term that describes it completely. It's actually a pretty complex system.
 

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I think you pretty well explained the difference. The Constitional Republic concept is primarily Federal in scope. Each state elects its representatives and senators on a majority vote. The number of representatives is, at least by definition, related to the number of citizens in that state, in order to give Congress a representation of the makeup of the various states and their opinions. The electoral college is a reflection of that makeup of individual republics, States, and is designed to reflect the collection of states.

Unfortunately, we, individual states, have bastardized the system, and far too many want to continue that bastardization process.

A mess, but still by far the best system on earth.
 

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Explain to me the difference, if you would. It's pretty esoteric and not clearly defined. Yes, this is a constitutional republic as it pertains to jurisprudence, but all elected officials are elected democratically, either directly or by proxy votes, as in the case of the Electoral College.

Essentially, it's impossible to pigeonhole the US system of governance into a single, simple term that describes it completely. It's actually a pretty complex system.

I like to describe it as a Constitutional Republic with democratic underpinnings. In a pure democracy, nothing voted on by the electorate or their representatives is off limits. If they voted in favor of instituting a monarchy, it would henceforth become a monarchy. The same goes for free speech, right to arms, etc.

In a Constitutional Republic, specific limits are set on the government which no amount of voting can alter. Even if 95% of the electorate and their representatives voted to restrict free speech, bearing arms or other elements of the Constitution and BoR, The People would have the option of armed revolution as a legitimate action to prevent it, even if the revolutionaries are in the minority. It's easy for despots and tyrants to take advantage of a pure democracy. It's more difficult with a properly formed Constitutional Republic.

I take great issue with the politicians and media not emphasizing that we're a Constitutional Republic, because it allows them to delegitimize the Constitution and pretend the judicial branch is the final arbiter of lawful vs. unlawful. They are not. We The People are the final arbiters and we have a duty to not abdicate that responsibility.
 

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Explain to me the difference, if you would. It's pretty esoteric and not clearly defined. Yes, this is a constitutional republic as it pertains to jurisprudence, but all elected officials are elected democratically, either directly or by proxy votes, as in the case of the Electoral College.

Essentially, it's impossible to pigeonhole the US system of governance into a single, simple term that describes it completely. It's actually a pretty complex system.

When the Constitution was written, a constitution was defined as a form of government. We do (We the People) have democratically elected representation in the House of Representatives independent of the state wherein we reside and, before the Seventeenth Amendment went into effect, the several state's legislatures chose senators to represent the state as a whole. That made us a republic.

After the Seventeenth Amendment was ratified, we switched over to two houses of representatives instead of one house of representatives and one senate. While the Senate as it now stands still has power independent of the House of Representatives, it is more like a second house of representatives than a senate and threw our government head long into more of a democracy than a republic. The states lost most of their power to control what goes on in the Feral(Federal) Government, and demagoguery and populism have run rampant now with the lack of influence and council of a truly republican body that the Senate was.

Used to be that nothing passed unless it was beneficial to both the people and the several states(Constitutional or not!). Now, the Feral Government passes legislation that forces or cajoles the states to comply with all sorts of programs like Medicaid, welfare, environmental foolishness, educational standards that dumb down our children, and I'm sure you all can think of much more.

I liked it better when the Feral Government stayed out of our day-to-day lives and the several states could compete with each other for the best and brightest, enact viable and cost effective social programs, support a favorable business climate - all the while assuring the people have a pleasant and safe environment with good prospects for prosperity.

George Washington, in his farewell address, warned us not to make changes in the system(the Constitution) that will destroy the energy of the system. Both the Sixteenth and Seventeenth Amendments and part of the Fourteenth amendment have done just that. To fix the system we must call upon the only overarching controlling authority to get it done. Who or what is that, you ask? It is We the People. We must do it ourselves, too. We must educate ourselves toward that end as well, because like someone's avatar on here states, "No one is going to give you the education you need to overthrow them."

To put a name on what we have, as has been said, will require some conjunctive footwork. I would start with "suzerain" and devolve from there.

Woody
 

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