Did the Obama administration commit 'the biggest accounting fraud in history' with student loans?

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You think Social Security is in bad shape take a look at what Obama did to the student loan process. Money means nothing to the .gov except a way to control those who work for it.

“And so they recreated the worst aspects of the subprime mortgage lending crisis". “They gave anyone who walked up a loan, without any notion of their capacity to repay.”

The Wall Street Journal’s editorial board (WSJ) recently suggested that the Obama administration pulled off “the biggest accounting fraud in history” with student loans when eliminating the role of private lenders in the federal student lending market.
Experts who spoke with Yahoo Finance acknowledged the issue with the general policy in hindsight, though they disagreed on who exactly is to blame.
In 2010, Democrats “nationalized the market to help pay for Obama Care,” WSJ asserted. “The Congressional Budget Office at the time forecast that eliminating private lenders would save taxpayers $58 billion over 10 years. This estimate was pure fantasy, and now we’re seeing how much.”
The WSJ op-ed also highlighted the rising number of severely delinquent student loans since then and blamed the Obama administration for expanding plans in 2012 for new borrowers “to reduce defaults, buy off millennial voters and disguise the cost of its student-loan takeover.”
The editorial board then added: “This may be the biggest accounting fraud in history.”
‘There’s no way around that’
WSJ argued that eliminating private lenders from the student loan market severely hurt Americans and that by using fair-market accounting, it becomes clear that student loans will actually cost taxpayers nearly $307 billion over the next 10 years.
Douglas Holtz-Eakin, former director of the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) during the George W. Bush administration and currently president of the center-right American Action Forum, agreed that the accounting discrepancy manifested because of the “technique” used by the CBO to evaluate the cost of these loan programs.
“A widely known deficiency of the Federal Credit and Reform Act is that it does not allow the CBO to incorporate [market risk] into assessments," Holtz-Eakin told Yahoo Finance. “So the loans, when they're evaluated are evaluated as safer than they truly are, and thus, the losses are smaller than they may truly be. And there's no way around that — the techniques force you to do that.”
He added that “that's why when you when they switched from the private loans to the government loans, it appeared to save money... that is misleading. I don't disagree, but it's not the CBO's fault — those are the rules.”
Sheila Bair, the chair of the U.S. Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) from 2006 to 2011, agreed that the WSJ was “right to call out the government” on the accounting issue and stressed that it is “a huge problem with federal budgeting and transparency generally.”
Income-based repayment plans were ‘poorly designed’
The WSJ argued that the key catalyst for the student debt crisis today — $1.48 trillion student loans outstanding, with 35% of the consumer loans in the “severely derogatory” category — was a result of the Obama administration’s policies regarding income-driven repayment (IDR) plans.
IDR plans allow borrowers to cap monthly student loan payments based on how much money they are making at a given time. As of September 2018, “almost half of the $898 billion in outstanding federal Direct Loans [were] being repaid by borrowers using IDR plans,” according to the Government Accountability Office.
Holtz-Eakin agreed with WSJ, arguing that the CBO “cannot anticipate a future action of either the Congress or the administration.”
If the government chooses “to move to a whole bunch of loan forgiveness and income-based repayment models, they can't anticipate that and both of those things bring in less money,” he explained. “The money goes out and it doesn't come back and they're bigger losses.”
Holtz-Eakin added that the Obama administration “did that on a regular basis — there was nothing CBO could have done about it.”
Former FDIC Chair Bair, who headed the agency during part of both the Bush and Obama administrations, argued that the issue arose from the poor design of the repayment plan system.
“This has been a couple decades in the making, frankly,” said Bair. “I think that the concept of a payment based on income is a good one — it’s not a bad one. But the way these things have been designed, it’s like the worst of all possible worlds.”
With borrowers often in thousands of dollars in student debt, IDR plans are seen as an alternative for borrowers with high debt and low income. But the current income-based repayment plans is “very poorly designed... [and] confusing,” Bair said.
The WSJ pointed out that borrowers end up owing more than they borrowed even though they’re repaying their loans — called negative amortization — which Bair acknowledged.
“With a true income share, you have higher earners paying more and lower earners paying less, but you let the higher earners pay more to help with the cross-subsidization of the lower earners, and also just to mitigate the budget impact,” said Bair. “But what the government does do now is they cap you out.”
In other words, if a borrower decides that they want to increase their monthly repayment amounts, instead of being able to pay back loans quickly, they’re capped out because the repayment structure is based on their income. Hence, the borrower — despite being able to increase payments — is stuck with a loan that’s accruing interest for possibly 20 or 25 years.
‘Recreated the worst aspects of the subprime... crisis’
The other issue was underwriting.
Previously, the government guaranteed student loans that borrowers took out from private lenders. Today, it controls more than 90% directly.
When the Obama administration “got rid of the guarantee program with the private sector out of the process and made it a direct federal loan, they got rid of all underwriting,” Holtz-Eakin noted.
“And so they recreated the worst aspects of the subprime mortgage lending crisis,” he stated. “They gave anyone who walked up a loan, without any notion of their capacity to repay.”

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/obama-administration-student-loans-experts-113140861.html
 

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We helped our daughter as much as we could,30-40k out of pocket. We and her still have loans. Once enrolled in the government loans, you’re screwed. We can go with another lender and save a 1/4-1/2 point but we give up the coverage if something happens to us. If you stay with the gubment loan, it is forgiven if something happens to the person on the note,god forbid.
 

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I still owe about $20,000 and man it sucks. My interest rate is almost 7%! The government is who sets the rate. It shouldn’t be more than 4% if you ask me. I should have it paid off in less than 6 years. I am counting down the days to get rid of that dang debt. My payment is $323 a month.
 

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My first house was 6.5 % and that was year one and year 2 it went to 7.5%
I owed 56K and paid it off in 25 months.
I made 10 bucks an hour and pinched every penny i had.
No soda only free water. No junk like chips or vending machines..No going out to eat.
I mostly ate green beans and tuna or oatmeal from the paper can and chase the dry oats with water.

Fished a lot and killed yard critters to eat.
I dumpster dove and gathered free fire wood that asplund cut down to heat my home.
And worked 60-70 hours a week
 

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Yikes! @swampratt you are the man. I am not kidding, sheesh.

I still have a "few" hundred thousand to pay off between The Wife and myself (she doesn't work outside the home or draw a salary). I am about to obtain a consolidation loan so I can tell Navient/Sallie Mae to smooth f*** off. Never in my life have I ever dealt with a shadier, more underhanded and disreputable corporation - except the freaking government itself!

Sallie Mae f***ed their reputation so badly and got so many complaints about them, so many lawsuits, they had to restructure and restyle themselves "Navient", and now with the government's blessing to be exempt from so many laws and regulations, getting a near-monopoly on their industry, and have next to ZERO oversight OR accountability.

I cannot begin to express how much I absolutely hate and LOATHE this company...
 

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Yikes! @swampratt you are the man. I am not kidding, sheesh.

I still have a "few" hundred thousand to pay off between The Wife and myself (she doesn't work outside the home or draw a salary). I am about to obtain a consolidation loan so I can tell Navient/Sallie Mae to smooth f*** off. Never in my life have I ever dealt with a shadier, more underhanded and disreputable corporation - except the freaking government itself!

Sallie Mae f***ed their reputation so badly and got so many complaints about them, so many lawsuits, they had to restructure and restyle themselves "Navient", and now with the government's blessing to be exempt from so many laws and regulations, getting a near-monopoly on their industry, and have next to ZERO oversight OR accountability.

I cannot begin to express how much I absolutely hate and LOATHE this company...
Likewise. Mine are all paid, but unfortunately the wife's loans are under this crapstorm of a company. Seriously, they could fook up the unfookable.
 

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That sucks guys. I had Wells Fargo mess up a loan I had..I did not sell my loan to them another company did that.
Wells Fargo would send out a statement 2 weeks after you had made your house payment.
It had a slip and return envelope in it to make your next month house payment.

On it were places to print out how much towards interest and how much you would like to pay towards principal and how much toward escrow.
And a total at the bottom.
I always sent extra towards principal.
I always sent in the payment early.
I put 2000 towards principal once and I was actually more than 3 months ahead of schedule.
I was making July's payment in March.
Some guy was sitting in a car out front of the house for about 30 minutes and I went and asked him if he was lost.
He asked me if I was Jeff Swisher I said Yes. He handed me a letter.

In it was information from Wells Fargo that said I was late on my house payment and they were going to foreclose on me.
Straight into the house I went and got on the phone.
Yea i was pissed I accused them of not being to do simple math.
I told them I was 3 months ahead.
Seems the 2000 extra towards principal messed them up and they told me they did not know where to put it towards the loan so all the money I had sent in since then was stopped and just sitting in limbo.
It is clearly written on the payment stub in the line that stated principal!!!

Idiots cashed those checks though. I had all documentation.
I had scratched out all the numbers and knew exactly what I owed and when I would have the loan payed off.
That was my second House 85K loan.
It as purchased by me for a rental home. It is next door to me.
It took Wells Fargo 4 months to get the numbers correct as they had tacked on late fees etc.
BS I got all those taken off and finally straightened them out.

No one would take the loan from them either I tried.
So I really pinched pennies and emptied all monies I had to pay it off. Took 5 years from start of loan and it was paid off.

I hate to buy things on a loan and the only things I have bought on a loan were houses.
Cash for all of it or I do not need it.
I fix things that are broke and do not pay people to do it for me. If I do not know how to do something I go to a library and find books about it.
We have internet now :)

You will be surprised how much money you can save by fixing broken things.
From hair driers and fans to your AC and heating system..Roofing , concrete, framing ,windows, siding, plumbing , electrical, welding, engine, transmission, rearends, alignment, tire mounting etc.. if it is broke you fix it.

Basically you become a Farm boy.
They do not go to town when something needs done and they do not hire out very often.

But in order to fix multiple busted things you must have parts and my back yard looks like Fred Sanford's yard.
Always collecting free things or trash :) One mans trash you know the drill.

I still have a FREE over head shop gas heater 100,000 btu if anyone wants it.
 

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7% interest on student loans to the federal government? That is too high, especially since the gov't is double-dipping. Once to draw 7% interest and the next is to draw an increased withholding Tax because a person went to school and has a higher paying job (hopefully). You get ripped off twice, one with student loans and again in higher taxes so they politicians can buy votes. It's obvious they don't care about the average Joe, who are they trying to kid, they made it look like they were doing everyone a favor.
 
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