Vaping not good it seems.

yukonjack · Sep 15, 2019

Tanis143 said:
Where did I say it was ok for children? Quote me. I never did. I said stop using the children as an excuse. I used the coffee reference to show how ADULTS like flavored items. You are not reading to understand, you are reading to argue and it bloody well shows. At this point its fruitless to debate you anymore as you are just as closed minded as the libbies who want to take our firearms. Good day.

Doing away with kiddie flavored vape juice has absolutely nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment. Flavored vape juice is not a constitutionally protected right. This proposed ban is simply a reasonable extension of the 2009 Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act that prohibited the manufacture of flavored tobacco products. And yes I will argue the point. Cause I'm right.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/111th-congress/house-bill/1256

TwoForFlinching · Sep 15, 2019

yukonjack said:
Doing away with kiddie flavored vape juice has absolutely nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment. Flavored vape juice is not a constitutionally protected right.

Neither was gay marriage, and look how many people were on the wrong side of that debate because they weren't gay.

Tanis143 · Sep 15, 2019

yukonjack said:
Doing away with kiddie flavored vape juice has absolutely nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment. Flavored vape juice is not a constitutionally protected right. This proposed ban is simply a reasonable extension of the 2009 Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act that prohibited the manufacture of flavored tobacco products. And yes I will argue the point. Cause I'm right.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/111th-congress/house-bill/1256

sanjuro893 · Sep 17, 2019

I'm not sure what the solution to keep kids from vaping or even smoking is. They still get vapes, still get cigarettes still get alcohol... You're always going to have somebody create a market (illegally) to provide to a customer. Now I'm not saying that we shouldn't do ANYTHING, I'm just asking when in the history of this country has prohibition of anything ever worked? There may be a solution out there, but banning flavors for EVERYONE isn't it. Somebody will make that stuff in his bathtub and make plenty of money selling to adults and kids alike and only God and the chemist will know what they put in it. So what other solutions are out there? Cuz I got nuthin.

CHenry · Sep 17, 2019

yukonjack said:
I think it's a reasonable ban. We've got 4th grade elementary kids out here that are getting caught vaping in the bathrooms at school. Maybe we should wait until it creeps into kindergarten.

lmao, prohibition has worked so well in the past and current times.
Hows that war on drugs working for ya

farmerbyron · Sep 17, 2019

The only thing worse than kids vaping is the government trying to prevent kids from vaping.

Let me tell you how this is going to play out. The government bans flavored vapes. The black market will meet the need but without the safety that comes from free and open markets. (Who’s to say these deaths are related to white market vapes anyways? Or hell, even vape related at all?). So now you have black market bales flooding the streets and it’s all but a certainty that vape related deaths and injuries will go UP! This is how government policies always work. They pretty much always do the opposite of their stated intention.

Don’t believe me?
AFFORDABLE CARE ACT
PATRIOT ACT
GUN FREE SCHOOLS ACT
ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY ACT (LBJ war on poverty)
PUBLIC SAFETY AND RECREATIONAL FIREARMS USE ACT (1994 AWB)

If legislation has something in its title, you can bet the effects will be counter to its title. Since basically forever. Especially so on cultural and social issues.

TwoForFlinching · Sep 17, 2019

yukonjack said:
I think it's a reasonable ban. We've got 4th grade elementary kids out here that are getting shot at school. Maybe we should wait until it creeps into kindergarten.

FIFY

RickN · Sep 18, 2019

Flavored vapes may not need to be banned. I saw the first trolling by ambulance chasers against Juul and others on TV today. They get some class actions going against vaping and it is history. Bankrupting them thru lawsuits is much more effective than a government ban.

TwoForFlinching · Sep 18, 2019

Lol... put RJ Reynolds and Phillip Morris out of business. I'm good with that, but good luck to whoever has the deep pockets to do it.

RickN · Sep 18, 2019

TwoForFlinching said:
Lol... put RJ Reynolds and Phillip Morris out of business. I'm good with that, but good luck to whoever has the deep pockets to do it.

That was tried but they have many millions of smokers so have held on and the political types do not want to piss off that many voters. Instead they are just doing it a little at a time. Vaping does not have that many people using their products so would not be able to withstand lawsuit judgements in the hundreds of million dollar range like tobacco companies.

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