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RickN

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Political affiliation really has nothing to do with 2A beliefs. I'm so tired of that stupid argument.


Keep telling yourself that and then watch the votes when it comes up. All the Dimocrats will vote for Red Flag laws, etc. Most Republicans will vote against it. If we are lucky all will. Now when it comes to normal people you are correct but not the political types.
 

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You have a guy that’s completely unstable that is legally able to own firearms. He owns an AK-47, 2 automatic handguns, plenty of standard capacity mags and ammo. He owns a plate armor vest and has a few smoke grenades.

He has made a couple off handed anti-government jokes, maybe shown a little disdain for an ethnic group or social class. Maybe he has went as far as making a joke or a threat about a school, a courthouse, a church, a club, or a theater.

Someone goes to a judge and lays all this out and orders a confiscation.

Meanwhile, Coo-Coo bird is minding his own business sitting on a rocking chair on the front porch yelling at the neighbor’s cat. The deputies show up, detain him, show a warrant for the confiscation, take the guns, give him a letter of instruction on the confiscation and the process of getting his guns back, then leave.

What I ask... is this guy any less of a threat than he was the day before? Did we thwart a sadistic plan or did we just set off a ticking time-bomb? What is he capable of now? Murrah? Stillwater? Boston?

The thing about red flag laws is that they don’t focus on the threat, they focus on one of many things he can do to terrorize our country. Not only that but now we have given them more reasons to act.

If you’re so much of a threat that you are to be stripped of your constitutional right without having committed a crime, then taking firearms simply isn’t enough, in fact it’s counterproductive. If you show that level on instability, you should loose your drivers license, be under constant surveillance, Hell institutionalized.

Are we helping or hurting society with Red Flag Laws.... I honestly don’t know. But if we treat the gun as threat and not the wacko, it’s a dangerous way to find out.
 

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You have a guy that’s completely unstable that is legally able to own firearms. He owns an AK-47, 2 automatic handguns, plenty of standard capacity mags and ammo. He owns a plate armor vest and has a few smoke grenades.

He has made a couple off handed anti-government jokes, maybe shown a little disdain for an ethnic group or social class. Maybe he has went as far as making a joke or a threat about a school, a courthouse, a church, a club, or a theater.

Someone goes to a judge and lays all this out and orders a confiscation.

Meanwhile, Coo-Coo bird is minding his own business sitting on a rocking chair on the front porch yelling at the neighbor’s cat. The deputies show up, detain him, show a warrant for the confiscation, take the guns, give him a letter of instruction on the confiscation and the process of getting his guns back, then leave.

What I ask... is this guy any less of a threat than he was the day before? Did we thwart a sadistic plan or did we just set off a ticking time-bomb? What is he capable of now? Murrah? Stillwater? Boston?

The thing about red flag laws is that they don’t focus on the threat, they focus on one of many things he can do to terrorize our country. Not only that but now we have given them more reasons to act.

If you’re so much of a threat that you are to be stripped of your constitutional right without having committed a crime, then taking firearms simply isn’t enough, in fact it’s counterproductive. If you show that level on instability, you should loose your drivers license, be under constant surveillance, Hell institutionalized.

Are we helping or hurting society with Red Flag Laws.... I honestly don’t know. But if we treat the gun as threat and not the wacko, it’s a dangerous way to find out.

In a short translation, you’re saying they’re taking the guns, not the person who has the problems and pulls the triggers.
 

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Keep telling yourself that and then watch the votes when it comes up. All the Dimocrats will vote for Red Flag laws, etc. Most Republicans will vote against it. If we are lucky all will. Now when it comes to normal people you are correct but not the political types.
The normal people been controlling the vote for 00 years
 

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Yeah and could possibly turn what was nothing into something.

That too.

I’ve seen too many times where one of the parties in a domestic situation lies about the other person just so they could be jailed. I think this Red Flag Law if not challenged will enable strangers to do the same thing just because they “hear” that a person has more guns than they like.
 

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If red flag laws include something about medical professionals, including psychologists, can flag someone, then those who own guns might avoid getting help.

What if any of these medical professionals is an anti-gun supporter and thinks the solution to all violence is gun confiscation and puts in his report that the patient shouldn’t have guns? There are ways to abuse the system. Look at our drug crisis.

I’ve seen attorneys make efforts to get a certain judge for their clients because they know how the judge thinks just so they can win their case. (Winning the case IS their job), but you get the idea.
 

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