Constitutional carry- what’s different other than no permit?

TerryMiller · Nov 7, 2019

corneileous said:
It’s really a no-brainer...[emoji851]

I really don’t think there should be a cost-at all, but that’s beside the point.

But yes, just because of the plain and simple fact that the only reason to even need a permit now anymore, is for carrying in a different state- or for full carrying ability here. They’re not going to be bringing in near as much money on the permit system as they did before, and they’re not going to even get anywhere remotely close to that number by charging full price to those very few that’ll still wish to carry in all the states we have reciprocity with, and to have the lesser restriction so why even try squeezing a butt-load of money for all that, out of a small handful of people? That’s all I’m asking. I know it’s probably not going to happen.

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So, if the legislature, which didn't amend the Oklahoma constitution to get "constitutional carry," chooses to reverse/repeal the bill creating the new carry law, where will one be if they don't have a concealed carry permit? Personally, I've got absolutely NO TRUST in the legislature for "doing the right thing."

Wife and I just renewed our permits for the second time this last Summer, and renewed it for 10 years.

corneileous · Nov 7, 2019

TerryMiller said:
So, if the legislature, which didn't amend the Oklahoma constitution to get "constitutional carry," chooses to reverse/repeal the bill creating the new carry law, where will one be if they don't have a concealed carry permit? Personally, I've got absolutely NO TRUST in the legislature for "doing the right thing."

Wife and I just renewed our permits for the second time this last Summer, and renewed it for 10 years.

I guess I don’t get what your asking. If at some point they decide to repeal this and take it all away, then we’ll just have to resort to going back to an infringing permission slip like we always have before.

But isn’t there like a 3 year grace period we have from when our permit expires to when we have to take that “almighty” SDA class again?

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dennishoddy · Nov 7, 2019

corneileous said:
I guess I don’t get what your asking. If at some point they decide to repeal this and take it all away, then we’ll just have to resort to going back to an infringing permission slip like we always have before.

But isn’t there like a 3 year grace period we have from when our permit expires to when we have to take that “almighty” SDA class again?

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It doesn't matter if your a traveler what Ok does internally as long as they keep the SDA permit an option.
You renew and keep traveling to remain legal in states that require it.

druryj · Nov 8, 2019

corneileous said:
I guess I don’t get what your asking...

...But isn’t there like a 3 year grace period we have from when our permit expires to when we have to take that “almighty” SDA class again?

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Your SDA license remains valid for 90 days after expiration. And, you have 3 years after expiration in which you can submit for a renewal before you have to take the SDA class again.

Count me as another who has little trust in the legislature "doing the right thing". Therefore, for that, and for the convenience of inter-state travel among others already mentioned, I choose to renew. Do I think the cost is too high? Not really; but then I do have a pretty good understanding of administrative costs. Do I wish it was cheaper? Of course I do. I'm more concerned with the cost of health care, prescriptions, and insurance than the little bit it costs me to keep my SDA license.

Aries · Nov 8, 2019

For the record, I'd be perfectly happy if they dropped or reduced the fee.

But there is still cost to the state, and I would prefer that be paid by the people who want the permit, rather than shared by everyone including those who do not want a permit. There aren't really any other options, including paying for it from other revenues (still paid for by the general population).

And while I'm sure the number of applications will drop, I'm not convinced the overall cost to the state will drop proportionally. All of the same equipment is needed, even for just one application/license... and unless they have a reduction in employees the labor costs probably don't drop significantly, and there will certainly still have to be employees to process them. I'll concede that the overall expenditure may drop slightly, but the average cost per license issued will likely increase. It's kind of a "bulk sales" formula.

CGS1 · Nov 9, 2019

O4L · Nov 9, 2019

CGS1 said:

Every law enforcement agency should put out a video like this and have it shown on local news stations repeatedly.

CGS1 · Nov 9, 2019

I agree

O4L said:
Every law enforcement agency should put out a video like this and have it shown on local news stations repeatedly.

Legend · Nov 11, 2019

Still can't buy the whole 'Constitutional Carry' title.
They voted to give it to us and they can vote to take it away.
I call it 'permitless' carry.

O4L · Nov 11, 2019

Legend said:
Still can't buy the whole 'Constitutional Carry' title.
They voted to give it to us and they can vote to take it away.
I call it 'permitless' carry.

I keep trying to tell people it's not Constitutional Carry but they don't listen.

It is Oklahoma's version of Permitless Carry.

The state Constitution needs to be amended to further protect this right.

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