The Tesla Electric Truck

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Good thing that guy didn't quit because it was hard to find gas in the early days. I love the rumble of an American V-8 but I admit we aren't going to be able to burn fossil fuels forever. Alternatives are coming, Fudd it all you want. Tesla ain't perfect but at least there is some innovation there. Someday the big three will get more involved and put their long history of engineering and innovation to work.

That's the mindset I can't wrap my head around. "It doesn't work right now, so there's no sense in trying further." Ford and GM are on the same tech plain as Tesla and Rivian, all expected in 2021... Tesla and Rivian just can't afford to keep it under wraps and not use their vehicles to raise investments.

I also remember some bailouts recently too. :D

I'd like to know who had the gumption to tear up that $600 Obama check.
 

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Stole this off of West Coast Choppers FB page. I'll post a link even though not everyone does FB.

ELECTRIC BOOGALOOS

I would like to start of by saying electric cars and motorcycles can F*ck Off!.
Ok now that we have that out of the way I can explain exactly why.
First and foremost let’s talk about the Ohh so “planet friendly” Formula E racing series. Now at first glance you might think that this “clean” form of racing must be the way of the future, right?? Not so much. Let take a peek at what’s really going on.
The very first indication this might be ******** is the 20 CAT Diesel generators in the pits running full throttle charging the batteries for these cars. Each car uses two 550 pound Lithium batteries per race. These batteries put out 250KW of power, and have a maximum output of 54KWH (kilowatt hours). On the high side the average U.S. home uses about 20KWH of power per month. One Formula E car, in one race uses four times that in 50 minutes. The recent Hong Kong race had 25 cars on the grid, using fifty 550lb Lithium batteries in 50 minutes. That’s a total of 2700 Kilowatt Hours. Or more than enough to power 10 homes for a month. That’s a lot of juice! Also the five power-plants in Hong Kong are powered by Diesel, Coal, and Gasoline. Whoopsie!
Now let’s take a look at these newfangled Lithium batteries. The big companies hawking electric cars and motorcycles would love you to believe that Fossil fuel is so harmful, and electric power is so clean. It actually the opposite. We are swapping a carbon monoxide problem that is fixable and controllable. For a toxic Lithium mining that kills wild life, ruins the water table and destroys agriculture. The mining process uses a ton of water. A million gallons of water per 2 metric tons of lithium(Each Tesla has 12 kilos of Lithium). In some South American countries like Chile. Lithium mining uses almost 70% of the countries water supply. Also if you are naive enough to think that there isn’t a bunch of diesel powered machinery used in the process? Think again. These Lithium batteries also leave a toxic footprint on the way out. Contamination of landfills and seeping into the water table.
So I know I have probably bombarded you with all these stats, and you are wondering what it all means? Do your own research. If you look really deep you can see that the companies behind pushing this “clean” stuff on us are Huge energy sellers. They want you to buy that electric power from them, and they want you to use a vehicle that sucks up that power. Also don’t forget the fact they are selling power that is made mostly from Coal or Fossil Fuels.
So I guess my point in all of this is.
If you really want to save the planet? Don’t buy a new car. Get an older car that can be repaired and maintained. It won’t be in the scrap heap after 7 years.
Oh wait I forgot to comment about Cars like the Tesla having a bunch of plastic in them. Isn’t that made from petroleum??? Well I guess I’ll just stash that away for later..

https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=west coast choppers&epa=SEARCH_BOX
 

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But, will they have the towing capacity of a regular pickup? And, if they will tow the same weight, would they still go as far?

I believe the max is 14k lbs. I’m sure the physics of towing doesn’t change with these compared to current trucks.
 

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Yes, and I’m saying the majority of 1/2 ton trucks are bought and used by far more folks than just ranchers and RVers.

I know this sounds like a RAM commercial, but this actually talks a lot about your point where the majority of the owners as buying trucks as "Family Trucks," with over 50% of sales being crew cabs. And buyers wanting more tech and comfort options.

 

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If you're worried about how much pulling power the motors will be able to muster, I believe that a lot of modern trains use electric motors.
That actually was going to be one of my questions. I'm glad you brought that up.
Electric motors go to full power in under a second vs a gasoline or diesel engine needing to wrap up.
I'd be interested in seeing the torque curves on a chart for EV vs dino vehicles. I'm kind of betting the EV's would win.
 

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I didn't say otherwise. In fact, I'll agree that the majority of the 1/2-tons are to businesses for their work vehicles.

Yes, you said it wouldn’t go over well because farmers, ranchers, and RVers wouldn’t like it....or at least that’s what I thought you were saying.

My point is the vast majority of light trucks aren’t bought by those groups.

The pickup is the new family car and weekend work horse, and has been for a long time. If someone makes a slick EV truck that can haul kids and cordwood, at the right price, it will sell....even if ranchers don’t like it.
 

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