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I know for a fact that a whole lot of hunters don't have a clue what bullet/load to use.
They just buy whatever is on the shelf at walmart in their caliber and expect results. Most don't know the difference between FMJ, softpoint, ballistic tip and varmint vs hunting bullet. When results don't come, dog trackers get a call.
My Dad was like this^^^, and I ended up supplying his ammo for his 270. He believed ballistic tips were the end all be all, and after I helped him trail a doe for hours and not find her, I resighted his gun with my handloads. He really didn’t think it was necessary, but I felt better.
 

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Some good reading here. When my son started hunting I gave him my Ruger 06. He was still pretty young so I loaded up some 168 grain SGK at about 3/4 power. I think I had 100 loaded so he could get used to the gun and get some range time in. I used 4895 but don’t remember the amount. It was a really accurate load out to 200 but most of our shots are under 150. He told me yesterday that he’s down to two rounds. I said
‘Well,that will get you through this season’. He’s never lost a deer and I see no reason to even go full power at this point.
 

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Some good reading here. When my son started hunting I gave him my Ruger 06. He was still pretty young so I loaded up some 168 grain SGK at about 3/4 power. I think I had 100 loaded so he could get used to the gun and get some range time in. I used 4895 but don’t remember the amount. It was a really accurate load out to 200 but most of our shots are under 150. He told me yesterday that he’s down to two rounds. I said
‘Well,that will get you through this season’. He’s never lost a deer and I see no reason to even go full power at this point.

Turned an 06' into a .308 :) Having confidence in your ammo goes along ways for sure.
 

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My Dad was like this^^^, and I ended up supplying his ammo for his 270. He believed ballistic tips were the end all be all, and after I helped him trail a doe for hours and not find her, I resighted his gun with my handloads. He really didn’t think it was necessary, but I felt better.

I'm still a big time ballistic tip and Accubond fan in 7mm and larger, Partition fan in the lessor calibers. This was from a buddy's Booner he couldn't find on Tuesday and Wednesday. 250yd broadside, .300wm with 180gr Barnes. Several spots like this over 2/3 of a mile and then just quit, vanished. His tracking dog has been 4 for 4 this year until he had to look for his own lol. Couple of those successfull recoveries were almost 3/4 mile of sniffing too. Retired Marine, I've seen him shoot, anything can happen I guess. Grid searched swith several guys on surrounding quarters with no luck.
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You guys have me wondering about my ammo choice. As I have stated a couple of times in other threads here, it's been over thirty years since I have hunted deer.

I have decided to use an AR with the Hornady Black .223 75gr BTHP.

I plan on doing some hunting over the next few days and I haven't had a chance to sight in my 30-30 with a scope (because my old eyes can't see the iron sights very well) and that's probably not going to happen before I go hunting.

I won't take a bad shot and I am confident in the rifle and myself so I hope the ammo does it's job well.
 

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Years ago, I bought A BUNCH of Hornady 270 cal. blem bullets from Midway, and I still have a few left. I really prefer 150 gr Interlocks but 150 gr SST’s do OK on deer and pigs too.:anyone:

I use 165 gr Corelokt bullets in my 308’s, and 120 gr Corelokt bullets in 6.5x55.
 

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My Dad was like this^^^, and I ended up supplying his ammo for his 270. He believed ballistic tips were the end all be all, and after I helped him trail a doe for hours and not find her, I resighted his gun with my handloads. He really didn’t think it was necessary, but I felt better.
Hard to blame a ballistic tip when you do not recover the deer. I have a 7 Rem Mag loaded 67.0 grs of IMR 4831 @ 3148 fps with 150 Nosler Ballistic Tip that I believe is a great deer load. It shoots about .6 five shot groups on my best days and just under an inch on others. The reason I like the 150 Nosler BT in .284 is because that it has held up enough for close shots with devastating results and expanded good with long shots. All the deer Ive taken with this load has been 14 - 175 yds except one. One deer shot at 464 yds broadside center punched both lungs expanded to near quarter size on exit through. All deer and one antelope shot with this load dropped and/or recovered very quickly because they were easy shots. Its been through shoulders to vitals, spines, necks and several head shots. Even the 464 yd shot was easy with rangefinder and wind near 0 mph. If at any time one of those bullets were not placed where was needed it could be a deer load that failed or blamed on the bullet construction by some. But for me if this load fails its because of a bad shot.
 

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I'm still a big time ballistic tip and Accubond fan in 7mm and larger, Partition fan in the lessor calibers. This was from a buddy's Booner he couldn't find on Tuesday and Wednesday. 250yd broadside, .300wm with 180gr Barnes. Several spots like this over 2/3 of a mile and then just quit, vanished. His tracking dog has been 4 for 4 this year until he had to look for his own lol. Couple of those successfull recoveries were almost 3/4 mile of sniffing too. Retired Marine, I've seen him shoot, anything can happen I guess. Grid searched swith several guys on surrounding quarters with no luck.
All copper bullet ????? Hopefully he can recover and see where the hit was.
 

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Years ago, I bought A BUNCH of Hornady 270 cal. blem bullets from Midway, and I still have a few left. I really prefer 150 gr Interlocks but 150 gr SST’s do OK on deer and pigs too.:anyone:

I use 165 gr Corelokt bullets in my 308’s, and 120 gr Corelokt bullets in 6.5x55.
Have only used the interlocks some. Havent used the SST. Rem core-lokt is a very good bullet for deer.
 

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All copper bullet ????? Hopefully he can recover and see where the hit was.

i'm not sure I'll have to ask. There was some white hair at impact he said. I'm thinking low hit that clipped the bottom of one lung. He sit for over an hour after the shot, watched other deer that were with him make their way back out of the canyon, but the big buck never exited. He gathered his things, walked over found the impact area, started following blood and then started finding areas like the pic I posted. Buck turned and headed south along a tree line and come to the center of the section. From the fence corners it's wide open from there south, southeast, and southwest as far as you can see with a few short grassy draws. Easy to see if there was a deer walking away, or easy to track if still bleeding, or easy to find just searching for a dead buck laying. When he got to the center of that section, that's when the blood stopped and zero blood found on either sides of the other fences. Dog picked up on nothing after that point either. Pretty frustrating.
 

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